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arcelonious said:
That's what I like about the ending. Joel rescues Ellie because the Fireflies didn't give Ellie a choice, but at the same time, he also doesn't give her one, and continues to lie about. In part, it's obvious that he's doing it to protect her, but I also think it is for himself (she has become the new thing for him that is worth fighting for in the world). The sad part is that Ellie seemingly sees through his lies and you don't know how she ends up feeling about it, which ultimately makes the ending powerful.

Only that we know Ellie doesn't want to end up alone. That's her greatest fear (and scorpions :P).

So yeah, I think she knows but ultimately she doesn't mind. Joel will never leave her. They both have gaps that they filled thanks to each other. Its buutiful <33



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Aldro said:
arcelonious said:
That's what I like about the ending. Joel rescues Ellie because the Fireflies didn't give Ellie a choice, but at the same time, he also doesn't give her one, and continues to lie about. In part, it's obvious that he's doing it to protect her, but I also think it is for himself (she has become the new thing for him that is worth fighting for in the world). The sad part is that Ellie seemingly sees through his lies and you don't know how she ends up feeling about it, which ultimately makes the ending powerful.

Only that we know Ellie doesn't want to end up alone. That's her greatest fear (and scorpions :P).

So yeah, I think she knows but ultimately she doesn't mind. Joel will never leave her. They both have gaps that they filled thanks to each other. Its buutiful <33


That's true, although I personally think that she has changed a bit from when she said that.  Regardless, the beauty is that much of it is up for interpretation.



arcelonious said:
That's what I like about the ending. Joel rescues Ellie because the Fireflies didn't give Ellie a choice, but at the same time, he also doesn't give her one, and continues to lie about. In part, it's obvious that he's doing it to protect her, but I also think it is for himself (she has become the new thing for him that is worth fighting for in the world). The sad part is that Ellie seemingly sees through his lies and you don't know how she ends up feeling about it, which ultimately makes the ending powerful.


I do sort of agree with you, even with my argument atleast to some degree, Joel made that choice based on his own desires. By the end of the game, he had lost Tess, had no one in the world left, or a reason to still be in it. Ellie had become his reason to live, the only thing he had left in that worl, and he would die to protect her. I guess my long ass post was just a justification for his decision, but after spending alot of time thinking about it, even if his reasons were possibly wrong, I agree with it :)



The best way to find out if you can trust somebody is to trust them.

Ernest Hemmingway

We should pay homage to Naughty Dog for creating a game with a story that gets you so emotionally involved, after finishing the game we are discussing it and giving our own interpretations on the events :P

Cant say I have ever done that with a game before



The best way to find out if you can trust somebody is to trust them.

Ernest Hemmingway

Brutalyst said:
We should pay homage to Naughty Dog for creating a game with a story that gets you so emotionally involved, after finishing the game we are discussing it and giving our own interpretations on the events :P

Cant say I have ever done that with a game before

Completely agree :D



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Brutalyst said:
 


I do sort of agree with you, even with my argument atleast to some degree, Joel made that choice based on his own desires. By the end of the game, he had lost Tess, had no one in the world left, or a reason to still be in it. Ellie had become his reason to live, the only thing he had left in that worl, and he would die to protect her. I guess my long ass post was just a justification for his decision, but after spending alot of time thinking about it, even if his reasons were possibly wrong, I agree with it :)


I think of it like this:

Remember the soldier/police officer that attempts to kill Joel and Sarah at the beginning of the game?  The officer reluctantly does it for the "greater good" (by attempting to prevent the spread of infection).  In comparison, if Joel had chosen to let Ellie die to potentially help humanity, it would have put in on the same level as that officer that killed his daughter.  When I think of it like that, it makes Joel's decision to save Ellie understandable, human, and realistic.



i have a question for everybody, if you were in joels place, what would you have done?



bananaking21 said:
i have a question for everybody, if you were in joels place, what would you have done?


If you asked me that right after I finished the game, I would have said 'got to Ellie, woke her and told her the truth and let her decide her own fate'

 

 

But having reflected over the last few days, I would have done exactly what Joel did



The best way to find out if you can trust somebody is to trust them.

Ernest Hemmingway

I'd like to think that I would rescue Ellie and then tell her the truth later, but in reality, I probably would have lied as well.



Brutalyst said:
bananaking21 said:
i have a question for everybody, if you were in joels place, what would you have done?


If you asked me that right after I finished the game, I would have said 'got to Ellie, woke her and told her the truth and let her decide her own fate'

 

 

But having reflected over the last few days, I would have done exactly what Joel did

i wouldnt have done that as i know they would have killed her anyway

i think joel did the right thing, atleast i would have done the same