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Xbox marketing chief talks to Ars about the benefits of the move to a "digital world."

"This is a big change, consumers don't always love change, and there's a lot of education we have to provide to make sure that people understand."

This is the extremely diplomatic way Microsoft Xbox Chief Marketing and Strategy Officer Yusuf Mehdi spun his reaction to the PR challenges surrounding the Xbox One of late. And it's true, consumers around the world (and around the Internet) loudly expressed how much they dislike the changes Microsoft announced to its game licensing terms (and online requirements) for the Xbox One last Thursday, giving Sony the ammunition it needed to win E3 by basically doing nothing.

The reaction wasn't a surprise to Mehdi, though. In fact, he said a lot of the way people have responded to Microsoft's moves was "kind of as we expected." But the implication of his statements in an in-depth interview with Ars Technica was that this temporary confusion and discomfort among the audience would be worth it as gamers and consumers adjust to a console world without game discs.

"We're trying to do something pretty big in terms of moving the industry forward for console gaming into the digital world. We believe the digital world is the future, and we believe digital is better."

Mehdi made a comparison to the world of home movie viewing, where inconvenient trips to Blockbuster Video have been replaced with Netflix streaming on practically any device instantly. On Xbox One, having all games exist as cloud-connected downloads enables new features like being able to access your entire library at a friend's house with a single login, or loaning games to up to ten "family members" digitally and remotely.

It's a "family" affair

Since its announcement, there has been some confusion over the details of sharing your Xbox One game library with up to ten "family members." Mehdi couldn't give comprehensive details but he did clarify some things.

For one, a family member doesn't have to be a "blood relative," he said, eliminating the extremely unlikely possibility that the Xbox One would include a built-in blood testing kit. For another, they don't have to live in the primary owner's house—I could name a friend that lives 3,000 miles away as one of my "family members" Mehdi said.

You'll be able to link other Xbox Live accounts as having shared access to your library when you first set up a system, and will also be able to add them later on (though specific details of how you manage these relationships is still not being discussed). The only limitation, it seems, is that only one person can be playing the  shared copy of a single game at any given time. All in all, this does sound like a pretty convenient feature that's more workable than simply passing discs around amongst friends who are actually in your area.

Those digital "benefits" will be available at launch, but Mehdi hinted that the digital rights management transition might unlock some more interesting game access and distribution methods later on. "In the future, you can imagine the capability to have different licensing models, different ways that people have to access games. This all gets unlocked because of digital." He wouldn't get drawn into details, but when I suggested ideas like an "all-you-can-play" Netflix for games or purely digital game rentals, he didn't shoot me down. "Sure. It could be a variety of ways."

He also suggested that the transition to a world of strictly downloadable and online-connected games would help allow for "a diversity of business models" for publishers to take advantage of, from free-to-play titles to $60 AAA games to Xbox Live Arcade games somewhere in between. "As you go into a digital world, what's happening is publishers are choosing to have different business models and consumers are saying 'hey, if I can't resell the title, provide for me a different way to get value to get into your game.' And we think the market will be efficient in finding good models that work for consumers." In essence, Mehdi said, consumer demand for good value from games will drive prices down, even if a publisher decides to fully cut off the market release valve of used game resale.

Publishers, of course, have been the most forceful proponents of cutting off the used game market, with some suggesting that used games arecomparable to piracy for their bottom line. But Mehdi said that Microsoft wasn't simply "giving in" to publisher demands with its new game licensing terms. Instead, it was trying to balance the needs of its four main "constituents," including the consumer (who comes "first and foremost" he said), game publishers, retailers, and Microsoft itself as a company.

"Within that, we've tried to optimize, and I think we've found a great balance across all of those dimensions," Mehdi said. "But there are tradeoffs. We do want to support everyone in that system, beginning with the consumer. But we want publishers to get paid for the great IP they work on. We want retailers to be able to drive and sell our products and make a profit. So we are trying to balance across all those."

Mehdi noted that purely digital game marketplaces like the iOS App Store have thrived despite having absolutely no physical media. Implementing that kind of disc-free system on the Xbox One "may not [have been] the best thing for consumers, and it may not [have been] the thing they [would have] wanted," Mehdi said, which is part of why Microsoft decided to keep discs as an option. Still, he did concede that, without discs, the licensing norms for the system "would be easier to understand."

The way Mehdi talked about Microsoft's licensing decisions reinforced the idea that he saw the limited abilities to share and transfer Xbox One games as a step up from other, purely digital marketplaces, even if some others see it as a step down from current disc-based distribution systems. On the Xbox One, Mehdi said the company has "tried to… bridge the two in a way that no one has done—to give you the power of digital and then give you all this power in physical. … We know we're providing a lot more value to consumers, but in that comes a lot of need to clarify, 'how come disc, how come digital, how's that work?'"

While the Internet is decidedly up in arms about the way the Xbox One handles game ownership and online check ins, Mehdi said it was "hard to say" what the larger reaction from the less attentive mainstream consumers would be. "I think it's fair to say there's a segment of consumers at this show in particular who really pay attention, who are very passionate about all aspects of gaming, and that we listen to closely. In a broader set of community, people don't pay attention to a lot of the details. We've seen it in the research, we've seen it in a lot of the data points."

One data point in particular Mehdi pointed to was the success of the initial pre-orders for the Xbox One, which started as soon as Microsoft's press conference concluded Monday. "Amazon basically says they are on path to sell out… Amazon is saying it's one of their best-selling consumer products. We're seeing the same thing form other retailers." To be fair, PlayStation 4 pre-orders were also a quick sell-out on Amazon after the company's press conference on Monday. Still, "it's very clear there are a wide variety of other consumers that love to game that are excited about what we have to offer with Xbox One," Mehdi said.

While the Xbox One will sell for $100 more than the PlayStation 4, Mehdi suggested that the extra money spent would be worthwhile to consumers looking for the "best value" in their next gaming system. Besides exclusive titles and gaming content, Mehdi said players would see value in the system being "backed by 300,000 servers backed by Microsoft that enable incredible game experiences." For another, the Kinect in each box provides for better gameplay and "ease of use for the entire system." Things like live TV support and exclusive NFL and Skype partnerships will also help show consumers the Xbox One's "tremendous value."

"We want to have our offering be differentiated relative to all others," he said. "It has value that is in so many areas that is not in competing systems. … That is a thing that each consumer will choose… and ultimately consumers will decide which is better. It's a big market."

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/06/microsoft-defends-the-xbox-ones-licensing-used-game-policies/



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Very good read, seems they will give steam like sales



Of course MS believes a digital world is better. It means higher profit margins and more control over the product. In terms of business the endgame goal for any console manufacturer is digital only. Look at Steam and iOS.

That doesn't mean it's good for the consumer however and it will be a sad day when the disc dies.



BenVTrigger said:
Of course MS believes a digital world is better. It means higher profit margins and more control over the product. In terms of business the endgame goal for any console manufacturer is digital only. Look at Steam and iOS.

That doesn't mean it's good for the consumer and it will be a sad day when the disc dies.


Personally i think a digital world is also better. But what does that have to do with restricting games than are on discs? Can't they just try and make digital so appealing that people will want to get their game more and more digitally instead of on disc?



So...pretty much MS was hoping for this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O53hM8smids



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Somini said:
BenVTrigger said:
Of course MS believes a digital world is better. It means higher profit margins and more control over the product. In terms of business the endgame goal for any console manufacturer is digital only. Look at Steam and iOS.

That doesn't mean it's good for the consumer and it will be a sad day when the disc dies.


Personally i think a digital world is also better. But what does that have to do with restricting games than are on discs? Can't they just try and make digital so appealing that people will want to get their game more and more digitally instead of on disc?


They could but they dont want to be labeled as a "download only" machine just yet. Ive commented on this before.

The main reason MS is introducing a DRM / always online console is because they view the X1 as the segway between the age of the disc and the digital only age. MS themselves are ready to embrace the digital model but they are keenly aware the consumer is not.

Thus they created the X1 to slowly conform people over to abandoning the disc. They fool the consumer into feeling like hes going out and buying physical media which hes used to but then implement features on the actual console that treat it like a digital only game. They are trying to slowly force people out of the habits that they are accustomed to with consoles instead of diving strait into digital only and alienating the consumer completly.

The X1 will be MS last console with physical media. They are training their consumer to embrace download only.



The disc truly is the horse and buggy whip of this generation and its time is quickly coming to an end. Microsoft is thinking two steps ahead of the competition right now.



scat398 said:
The disc truly is the horse and buggy whip of this generation and its time is quickly coming to an end. Microsoft is thinking two steps ahead of the competition right now.


Thing is, if digital ever became the standard, or at least leading over physical, you'll see laws and regulations that will allow for reselling your digital content. We're not there yet, but in the EU for example, they are already busy establishing this.

So digital items; like games, music, movies and everything else will go second hand too in the not too distant future.



scat398 said:
The disc truly is the horse and buggy whip of this generation and its time is quickly coming to an end. Microsoft is thinking two steps ahead of the competition right now.


what happens to the collectors. Will they be an endangered species?



Somini said:
scat398 said:
The disc truly is the horse and buggy whip of this generation and its time is quickly coming to an end. Microsoft is thinking two steps ahead of the competition right now.


Thing is, if digital ever became the standard, or at least leading over physical, you'll see laws and regulations that will allow for reselling your digital content. We're not there yet, but in the EU for example, they are already busy establishing this.

So digital items; like games, music, movies and everything else will go second hand too in the not too distant future.

well if they do lets just hope the rights of the publisher are properly protected and royalties are paid.