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richardhutnik said:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_is_dead

As much as I enjoy Nietzsche - the problem about using Nietzsche as a witness is that people can always point to the fact that he became a madman himself, already in his early fourties.

on topic: You might be able to kill other gods, but killing my god would actually be rather tricky.



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Here are some things people don't get about gods. Can gods be killed? Sure can other religious gods be killed? They have. But I believe you are talking about the Christian God and no he cannot be killed. Jesus was half man, half God and sent with the intent purpose of being killed. Which only his body was. You are thinking of God as a flash and blood creator but he is not. Being formed in the same shape does not mean he is made of the same stuff.
God stopped interacting with humanity because with any child you let them know right from wrong then leave them to make that decision. If we could visit God there would be a lot more believes in the world and its not just about believing.
Yeah dude a being that can create entire universe is going to be threatened but our weaponry that wouldn't amount to squat.
Looking over some of your posts, many don't even know the story of creation and have a God like mentality themselves. we must kill him because he is all powerful. If Gods presence was fact people like this would be worshipping him. God doesn't want people that sick and twisted to actually believe they are on the same level. Kinda like the old phrase "When the cats away the mice will play." SOme children will never act up in front of their parents but will be complete shits when they are not around.

People bringing up science. There is a growing belief in the scientific community that there must be a god of some form out there because life started here too early and tis the way some things make sense.



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ArnoldRimmer said:
richardhutnik said:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_is_dead

As much as I enjoy Nietzsche - the problem about using Nietzsche as a witness is that people can always point to the fact that he became a madman himself, already in his early fourties.

on topic: You might be able to kill other gods, but killing my god would actually be rather tricky.

I brought up Nietzsche and the other post here, to go into what is actually discussed in killing God, and the fallout of that belief.  It was not meant as a cheerleading exercise, but if you look further, you see the absurdity of the concept.  And witrh Nietzsche you see fully what happens when you decide to try to kill God, in that you throw off morality and a sense of right and wrong.  You have men have to come up with their own rules, and standards, and then find that it ends up being very limiting, because this practice ends up being one of bending the world to one's own benefit, rather than something that aspires to make people better, or more restrained and so on.

Chesterton goes into this also:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=Xh1ToGbVZOI



richardhutnik said:

I brought up Nietzsche and the other post here, to go into what is actually discussed in killing God, and the fallout of that belief.  It was not meant as a cheerleading exercise, but if you look further, you see the absurdity of the concept.  And witrh Nietzsche you see fully what happens when you decide to try to kill God, in that you throw off morality and a sense of right and wrong.  You have men have to come up with their own rules, and standards, and then find that it ends up being very limiting, because this practice ends up being one of bending the world to one's own benefit, rather than something that aspires to make people better, or more restrained and so on.

Chesterton goes into this also:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=Xh1ToGbVZOI

I guess I really misinterpreted your earlier postings.



You can't kill something that hasn't ever existed.
You can kill the idea of the thing (God) existing which is rapidly being done thanks to the internet, but there will always be people that choose not to look at the facts because they lack the intelligence, it's too painful to believe there is no God or are scared what might happen if they don;'t believe.



ArnoldRimmer said:
richardhutnik said:

I brought up Nietzsche and the other post here, to go into what is actually discussed in killing God, and the fallout of that belief.  It was not meant as a cheerleading exercise, but if you look further, you see the absurdity of the concept.  And witrh Nietzsche you see fully what happens when you decide to try to kill God, in that you throw off morality and a sense of right and wrong.  You have men have to come up with their own rules, and standards, and then find that it ends up being very limiting, because this practice ends up being one of bending the world to one's own benefit, rather than something that aspires to make people better, or more restrained and so on.

Chesterton goes into this also:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=Xh1ToGbVZOI

I guess I really misinterpreted your earlier postings.

I just posted it because it fit into the discussion.  What I did not explain is why I posted or how it lent into the discussion.  The main thing is this goes back decades even, and over a century at this point.  It is not new.

There is an irony here.  If you end up going, "Kill God because of the EVIL!" then you go into God existing, which opens up a whole can of worms.  If you then go you don't mean it, then who do people want to kill?  Do we kill the artists who created the God concept?  Do we kill ourselves?



As I see it, God´s existence lies in existence itself. Meaning, his body and mind is everything and everyone in the Universe, counting even the parallel realities. So, to kill God, you have to destroy the whole Universe.



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