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Noobie on 01 February 2008
rocketpig said:
HappySqurriel said:
rocketpig said:
I don't see it happening this year. Power6 architecture is just too damned hot and needs 45nm process at least, not to mention a few GPU shrinks (the RSX is still 90nm).

Even then, the power brick would be pretty large for the unit. Maybe in 2009 but I don't think it will happen in this calendar year.

I thought all processors this generation were based off of the Power 3 architecture?


Power6, actually... Except the Wii. I think that's Power5, isn't it? Same tech as Apples' G4, IIRC.

What I said about the PS3 applies to the 360, too. Maybe even more so because of its tri-core chip.


Do you have any link for the claim u make that Cell is based on Power6... cell do take few architectural units from Power6 or u can say other way, but overall they r quite different in their basis and their concepts. and the main central processor is more like G4 variant, this is wot i have read mainly..

http://episteme.arstechnica.com/eve/ubb.x/a/tpc/f/174096756/m/398003679631

but if u have any reference i will surely like to get corrected... But if its based on Power6 architecture even then the general floor plan of the Cell is going to be almost completely different and it may or may not face the troubles IBM Power6 is facing...

Btw while searching for the link i found this interesting link...

http://www.ppcnux.com/?q=node/7144



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Zucas on 01 February 2008

They were able to fool the Japanese people with the Slim PSP, so why the hell not haha. But its going to need a pricedrop to go along with it for it to fool anyone haha.



souixan on 01 February 2008

All I gotta say is shrinking it down is a good idea, however it would lead to a power brick and overall the main unit PS3 will still be larger than the Wii which would lead to 360esq complaints.

Removing the power source from the unit is both good and bad.
It adds extra wires and looks a bit tacky but it also reduces internal system heat and size.

My only thought on the matter other than the facts is.. if it looks anything like the mock up I saw they'd be utterly stupid to produce that. It's looks hideous.. It looks like a wii got flattened and they handed it a riot shield..



Words Of Wisdom on 01 February 2008
Desroko said:
CDiablo said:
Just make another color, or a hello kitty edition, the Japanese will eat it up.

That's what I was thinking. It has to be a hell o a lot cheaper than redesigning the unit. Wait until 2009 for that.


 



Desroko on 01 February 2008
Words Of Wisdom said:
Desroko said:
CDiablo said:
Just make another color, or a hello kitty edition, the Japanese will eat it up.

That's what I was thinking. It has to be a hell o a lot cheaper than redesigning the unit. Wait until 2009 for that.


 


Lol, I should have bolded "another color" in that quote.



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FinalEvangelion on 01 February 2008

I wouldn't be surprised if they are trying to get a smaller edition of the PS3 earlier than they did with the PS2. In Japan, it will help quite alot with sales like the PSP.



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Squall_Leonhart on 01 February 2008

@wow

Could we stop the trolling please...

I mean if you have nothing constructive to add to the thread then don't bother!



rocketpig on 02 February 2008
Noobie said:
rocketpig said:
HappySqurriel said:
rocketpig said:
I don't see it happening this year. Power6 architecture is just too damned hot and needs 45nm process at least, not to mention a few GPU shrinks (the RSX is still 90nm).

Even then, the power brick would be pretty large for the unit. Maybe in 2009 but I don't think it will happen in this calendar year.

I thought all processors this generation were based off of the Power 3 architecture?


Power6, actually... Except the Wii. I think that's Power5, isn't it? Same tech as Apples' G4, IIRC.

What I said about the PS3 applies to the 360, too. Maybe even more so because of its tri-core chip.


Do you have any link for the claim u make that Cell is based on Power6... cell do take few architectural units from Power6 or u can say other way, but overall they r quite different in their basis and their concepts. and the main central processor is more like G4 variant, this is wot i have read mainly..

http://episteme.arstechnica.com/eve/ubb.x/a/tpc/f/174096756/m/398003679631

but if u have any reference i will surely like to get corrected... But if its based on Power6 architecture even then the general floor plan of the Cell is going to be almost completely different and it may or may not face the troubles IBM Power6 is facing...

Btw while searching for the link i found this interesting link...

http://www.ppcnux.com/?q=node/7144


I really love how many words you cut out by using "r" or "u", but the fact still remains that the Cell processor is based on IBM's Power technology.

Let's play a game... It's called "Queen's English". You post a comment using only words that make sense. Then I will respond. It's not a difficult game and chances are that you will win if you have the vocabulary beyond a first grader.

Okay.... Go!

PS. Any monkey who pays attention to processors realizes that the C377 is based on old IBM technology, the same technology that spawned the Xenon.

If you want to get into an argument about how the Cell was created to be a server processor to massively crunch numbers and how it's not nearly as fit for gaming as the Xenon, I'm all game. 




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rocketpig on 02 February 2008
souixan said:
My only thought on the matter other than the facts is.. if it looks anything like the mock up I saw they'd be utterly stupid to produce that. It's looks hideous.. It looks like a wii got flattened and they handed it a riot shield..

The best part of that mockup is the fact that they have the heat distribution vents pointed down out on a narrow island... Think about it for a second.




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superwrxsti on 02 February 2008

Ugh. We'll see. I'm sick of the puzzling tactics of this generations hardware... Not only on Sony's part.