With the offline thing?  I know you can still play games when offline. Is there a time limit?

I stayed for almost one month without internet and was able to play my Steam games just fine. That was years ago, though, so I'm not sure if Valve changed their policy or not.

Hmm, that is certainly better than 24 hours... 24hours though, is more than enough time for me personally to fix whatever issue I have with my connection. Steam has no second hand sales at all correct?

nah as in steam has been aroudn since 2003 or so and I have had it on many computers in this time frame. With xbox one once the gen is over effectively is my ability to play xbox one games I owe as I won't be able to go online to verify or worst still if my box oen craps out and I buy a second hand one I won't be able to isntall those games on my second hand xbox.

With steam if your hardware craps out well you jsut buy another pc and link it to your steam account.

Even if valuve goes bankrupt I am sure there would be a bidding war to pickup steam. Steam aint goign nowhere where as xbox one service will die off after the gen ends. We even see it now days with current gen games. FIFA or WWE or example once the new versio comes out the online services are switched of for the old, forcing you to buy new one if you want to game online. THis is the way EA controlled you on a discreet level.

Yeah you will. You can play your games on a friends account while being logged in. I doubt they'd stop you from owning another console. I doubt the X1's design will die after the gen either, if anything I think it will stretch to at least 2 of the 3 consoles. Sony had a form of DRM on the PS3 already!

i meant when the generation ends and I want to replay a classic game but cannot cause of thr DRM. Like ATM I been plaing some PS1 and N64 games, with xbox one I will not be able to do that.

Just what I was thinking.

Those are two quite different situations. The PS3 launched at a very high price. The One will not launch at anywhere near that price.

If you want more clarification upon my post that you guys quoted look at my other 2-3 posts in the thread.

You have to be online for the indie games on the 360 though. I don't see them letting you off the 24 hour check just because you go digital.

Microsoft greed is at an all time high. They are using there muscle once again to try and put a blanket over the ps4 e3 press conference. This will not work nor will there attempts to pay off publishers not to show up at e3 for sony. This will all blow up in microsofts face. They are trying to take there gaming consumers and force them into a new more costly medium for Microsoft to funnel cash from. It's disgusting that they are more company driven than ever before. PS4 will dominate mark my words unless you want ads of Dorito bags poppin up on your xbox one dash board 3 times a day not to mention any other thing they want to sell.