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DigitalDevilSummoner on 02 June 2013
Imaginedvl said:
DigitalDevilSummoner said:
Imaginedvl said:

That's your opinion.
My definition of hardcore gamer  is being loyal to a game (or more than one) and playing it (or playing in general) a lot.

"or more than one" OR MORE THAN ONE ?! Nice save.

That is the very hole in the so called Xbox's hardcore base theory. When you only play CoD or Halo and you waste all of your time and money into these franchises, you are not a hardcore gamer, you are a hardcore Call of Duty gamer. You are a hardcore WoW gamer.

Savvy ? 

You should whatch your tone now.
Insulting Xbox gamers or Call of Duty fans is not going to help.

And again, you decided that an hardcore gamer would be attached to only one gender or to a single franchise... That's not everyone's definition.

Being a hardcore Call of Duty gamer does not necessarily make you a hardcore gamer in general.

 



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NintendoPie on 02 June 2013
Jay520 said:



Only when left undefined and open to interpretation. It's okay when you clearly define it, as I've done. Did you read the OP?

Yes, but I can still create my own definition for hardcore, therefore it's open to interpretation.



Imaginedvl on 02 June 2013
DigitalDevilSummoner said:
Imaginedvl said:

You should whatch your tone now.
Insulting Xbox gamers or Call of Duty fans is not going to help.

And again, you decided that an hardcore gamer would be attached to only one gender or to a single franchise... That's not everyone's definition.

Being a hardcore Call of Duty gamer does not necessarily make you a hardcore gamer in general.

 

Matter of opinion :) I would say the exact opposite. A COD hardcore gamer is a hardcore gamer (playing a lot, competitive, very good at one gender), now a "hardcore gamer in general" is not necessarily a "COD hardcore gamer". But both are hardcore gamers. You, know you can add a lot of different rules to be categorized as an hardcore gamer, but again it is just your personnal point of view.



DigitalDevilSummoner on 02 June 2013
Wright said:
I'm not clever enough to understand this line of reasoning. Can somebody summarize me what the OP is talking about?

The Xbox 360 sells more software than the PS3. So 360 gamers are more hardcore based on the premise that hardcore gamers buy more software.

My take: The OP deliberately  tries to blur the line between a good, loyal customer and a hardcore gamer.

Someone who will buy Halo 3, Halo Wars, Halo ODST, Halo 4, Halo CEA, Halo Reach (which amount close to a total of 40 million copies sold) is certainly a hardcore and probably competitive Halo gamer but outside the world of Halo I wouldn't necessarily call him a hardcore gamer.

If someone is oblivious to the gaming industry outside his favourite game, he is not a hardcore gamer.

 

 



Jay520 on 02 June 2013
NintendoPie said:
Jay520 said:



Only when left undefined and open to interpretation. It's okay when you clearly define it, as I've done. Did you read the OP?

Yes, but I can still create my own definition for hardcore, therefore it's open to interpretation.



The word is unavoidably vague, so yes interpretation is inevitable. This can cause disconnected interpretations which causes disconnected discussions. However, one can propose a single interpretation that we all can accept for the sake of the discussion, as I have done. I don't have a problem with using these vague words so long as they are defined. If you disagree with my definition, then we can use a different one. It doesn't really matter which definition we use, so long as we're both using the same one.

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Wright on 02 June 2013
DigitalDevilSummoner said:
Wright said:
I'm not clever enough to understand this line of reasoning. Can somebody summarize me what the OP is talking about?

The Xbox 360 sells more software than the PS3. So 360 gamers are more hardcore based on the premise that hardcore gamers buy more software.

My take: The OP deliberately  tries to blur the line between a good, loyal customer and a hardcore gamer.

Someone who will buy Halo 3, Halo Wars, Halo ODST, Halo 4, Halo CEA, Halo Reach (which amount close to a total of 40 million copies sold) is certainly a hardcore and probably competitive Halo gamer but outside the world of Halo I wouldn't necessarily call him a hardcore gamer.

 

 


Thanks for the summary.

I would say that being a hardcore gamer is based upon the games you play, not the console you own, but hey.



Jay520 on 02 June 2013
DigitalDevilSummoner said:
Imaginedvl said:
DigitalDevilSummoner said:
Imaginedvl said:

That's your opinion.
My definition of hardcore gamer  is being loyal to a game (or more than one) and playing it (or playing in general) a lot.

"or more than one" OR MORE THAN ONE ?! Nice save.

That is the very hole in the so called Xbox's hardcore base theory. When you only play CoD or Halo and you waste all of your time and money into these franchises, you are not a hardcore gamer, you are a hardcore Call of Duty gamer. You are a hardcore WoW gamer.

Savvy ? 

You should whatch your tone now.
Insulting Xbox gamers or Call of Duty fans is not going to help.

And again, you decided that an hardcore gamer would be attached to only one gender or to a single franchise... That's not everyone's definition.

Being a hardcore Call of Duty gamer does not necessarily make you a hardcore gamer in general.

 



I don't understand your reasoning.

Since when does "core gamer" necessitate playing multiple franchises? This is your own subjective opinion and is meaningless in the business world. Moreover, your implication that 360 gamers stick to few franchises is flawed since they tend to buy multiplatform games at s greater frequency than PS3 gamers.

DigitalDevilSummoner on 02 June 2013
Jay520 said:


I don't understand your reasoning.

Since when does "core gamer" necessitate playing multiple franchises? This is your own subjective opinion and is meaningless in the business world.

The business world of course does not care about the hardcore gamer but rather the good, loyal customer as I've already said 3 times. And the OP infact does not mention the business world last 10 times I checked.

Someone who is invested in one franchise be that LoL, WoW, CoD, or Halo, is not necessarily  aware about other things in gaming. Thusly not a hardcore gamer rather a competitive gamer in his respective field.

My definition is actually more general than any of yours since it corresponds to what the OP actually says:

"One who has a genuine interest in video games" Video games. Plural.

Can I say savvy now ?

 



Imaginedvl on 02 June 2013
DigitalDevilSummoner said:
Jay520 said:


I don't understand your reasoning.

Since when does "core gamer" necessitate playing multiple franchises? This is your own subjective opinion and is meaningless in the business world.

The business world of course does not care about the hardcore gamer but rather the good, loyal customer as I've already said 3 times. And the OP infact does not mention the business world last 10 times I checked.

Someone who is invested in one franchise be that LoL, WoW, CoD, or Halo, is not necessarily  aware about other things in gaming. Thusly not a hardcore gamer rather a competitive gamer in his respective field.

My definition is actually more general than any of yours since it corresponds to what the OP actually says:

"One who has a genuine interest in video games" Video games. Plural.

Can I say savvy now ?

 

I would say no.

First because it arrogant to think that your definition is better than others.
Second, because we already told you that we do not agree with the fact that a hardcore gamer should like games in general and not being very focused on only few games or one gender...



Jay520 on 02 June 2013
DigitalDevilSummoner said:
Jay520 said:


I don't understand your reasoning.

Since when does "core gamer" necessitate playing multiple franchises? This is your own subjective opinion and is meaningless in the business world.

The business world of course does not care about the hardcore gamer but rather the good, loyal customer as I've already said 3 times. And the OP infact does not mention the business world last 10 times I checked.

Someone who is invested in one franchise be that LoL, WoW, CoD, or Halo, is not necessarily  aware about other things in gaming. Thusly not a hardcore gamer rather a competitive gamer in his respective field.

My definition is actually more general than any of yours since it corresponds to what the OP actually says:

"One who has a genuine interest in video games" Video games. Plural.

Can I say savvy now ?

 



Not even sure why you keep saying savvy, but anyway...

You didn't answer my question. Where are you getting the notion that a core gamer needs to play several franchises? The way I see it, there's no legitimate reason to exclude this group of gamers. You could say they don't know much about the industry outside of their one favorite franchise, but that's the case with most gamers, even core gamers - they tend not to know much outside of the games they play. Moreover, an interest in gaming does not require knowledge of the industry; it requires....uhhh...an interest in gaming, its pretty obvious.

Well, I guess you did answer my question by pointing to the OP, but its a pretty week attempt. I used video games since it was the first thing that came to my mind, not because I was being pendantic about plural vs singular. I'll be sure to change it to gaming.

The entire discussion is moot anyway since most multiplats sell more on the 360, meaning 360 gamers do play a lot of different franchises.