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Do you want the rebels in Syria to Win?

yes 55 26.44%
 
no 77 37.02%
 
maybe 20 9.62%
 
Fuck Syria, I want games ... 54 25.96%
 
Total:206
Kasz216 said:
Sharu said:

Kasz216. Your death is unavoidable. So – the sooner the better???

It's actually quite the opposite.  Getting assad out of the way now would prevent deaths.  Not cause them.

Kasz, here's simple solution for you -- do not start wars. As I've said you and Saudis hold much of responsibility for this war, not Assad.

And don't act like Assad is a problem. Well, according to DoS half of the world is a problem, but since the time shit hit the fan MSM makes it sound like he's worst person since Hitler accusing him of various crimes against his own people as if it's a proven case already. Getting leaders out of the way do not solve problems you have or might had with Syria, and it certainly ain't worth a war. Especially if he has this kind of unprecedent support, while the war is only helping him to gain more support.

As for preventing deaths, here's couple words for you -- Libya, Iraq.



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Ckmlb1 said:
mai said:

Of course, I do. Finally cannibals will be equated in rights with the rest of the people in that country.

Sorry, but the heart of a dead soldier being eaten by one man (as shocking as the sight is) is less of a travesty as the tens of thousands of civilians wiped out by Assad by air and artillery in indiscriminate bombardment. Large swathes of Aleppo (largest city in Syria and economic heart of the country) have literally been pulverized and the only side that has the ability for such destruction of whole neighborhoods of buildings (provided by the peacemakers Russia) is the government. 

@Kazs, see what I'm talking about? *facepalm*



Asad is an asshole. He killed his own people. He must be stopped.



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Neither Asad or the rebels are fit to run Syria. It's just the way it is.



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Ckmlb1 said:
the2real4mafol said:
Sharu said:
Gaddafy (??) was killed. But deaths in Lybia aren't stopped.

Yeah it's really unstable in Libya there is still a weak government but do you really blame people for wanting to overthrow a ruler who was a tyranny for over 40 years? The people there though they had enough of dictatorship and being treated like shit by there government. But i guess the problem is, was this influenced from the outside or was it the people's revolution. Also, the problem with the killings is probably because everyone was allowed to keep what they found when they took over the military bases from Gaddafi's army. It will probably take years to recover there and prosper in a Gaddafi-free age


You argued earlier that the west should not support imposing islamic dictators like in Iran (Shah was the furthest possible thing from a islamic ruler), Afghanistan (the Taliban did not exist when the Soviets left, they came along in the mid-90s and won took over through a civil war) and Iraq (west didn't install anything, the people elected the government, the majority of the Iraqis are Shia so the Shia will logically lead the country now just as the Sunnis should lead Syria), but you seem fine with the overthrow of Qaddafi (almost impossible it seemed without western aid, at least at the speed it moved). By the same logic the Syrians are revolting against their dictatorial rulers. The jihadists joined the fight in Lybia as well and will flock to any war zone in a muslim country to spread their ideology and beliefs. 

Just because i supported the overthrow of Gaddafi that doesn't mean i supported western intervention of Libya. We just manage to make everything worse so why bother?, it's their fight anyway. I want Assad gone as much as the rebels but that don't mean we should get involved. It's also the same for the past, we should just keep our noses out of it, Iran was a functioning democracy before the west decided to fund a coup but because the leader wouldn't cooperate with us over oil we had to do something! While in Afghanistan the west was willing to support anyone who was willing to fight the soviets and funnily enough they ended up being terrorists who hated the west. Osama Bin Laden being one of the key people who got help to fight against the soviets. My problem is none of it was neccessary, Afghanistan was a prosperous and modern nation before 1979, it's just sad what war and religious extremism can do to a country. ~http://englishrussia.com/2011/07/21/the-afghanistan-of-the-50s-60s/#more-60639

While, Iraq we didn't install a leader but we wasted 10 years there at first removing Saddam Hussein and then the rest of the time trying to fight against a guerilla resistance which has still lead to problems there today. Without war or bastard leaders, Iraq could probably be as rich as the UAE with all the oil it has

But really, i'm not suprised we get extremist muslims today when we lead to the destruction of their society by removing their leaders (whether democratic or dictatorial). There is no law and order left and there are so bound by their religious beliefs, they will do anything to further the cause. It's sounds similar to what communism once was, as you find it was very popular in the countries worst hit by world war II, which is why America tried to fund their reconstruction, although it was too late for some countries.   



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mai said:
Kasz216 said:
Sharu said:

Kasz216. Your death is unavoidable. So – the sooner the better???

It's actually quite the opposite.  Getting assad out of the way now would prevent deaths.  Not cause them.

Kasz, here's simple solution for you -- do not start wars. As I've said you and Saudis hold much of responsibility for this war, not Assad.

And don't act like Assad is a problem. Well, according to DoS half of the world is a problem, but since the time shit hit the fan MSM makes it sound like he's worst person since Hitler accusing him of various crimes against his own people as if it's a proven case already. Getting leaders out of the way do not solve problems you have or might had with Syria, and it certainly ain't worth a war. Especially if he has this kind of unprecedent support, while the war is only helping him to gain more support.

As for preventing deaths, here's couple words for you -- Libya, Iraq.

Yes, the government that controlled the country for 40 years passing it on from father to son, spying on its people, imprisoning, killing or exiling all political opposition, wiping out tens of thousands of its own people twice now (Hama in the 80s and now this war) has nothing to do with the war. It's all Saudi Arabia's fault, suddenly out of nowhere a country where protests were banned and a person could not even hold a sign critcizing the government, magically foreign rebels appeared in the midst of all the cities and towns and started causing trouble. 



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the2real4mafol said:
Ckmlb1 said:
the2real4mafol said:
Sharu said:
Gaddafy (??) was killed. But deaths in Lybia aren't stopped.

 

 

Just because i supported the overthrow of Gaddafi that doesn't mean i supported western intervention of Libya. We just manage to make everything worse so why bother?, it's their fight anyway. I want Assad gone as much as the rebels but that don't mean we should get involved. It's also the same for the past, we should just keep our noses out of it, Iran was a functioning democracy before the west decided to fund a coup but because the leader wouldn't cooperate with us over oil we had to do something! While in Afghanistan the west was willing to support anyone who was willing to fight the soviets and funnily enough they ended up being terrorists who hated the west. Osama Bin Laden being one of the key people who got help to fight against the soviets. My problem is none of it was neccessary, Afghanistan was a prosperous and modern nation before 1979, it's just sad what war and religious extremism can do to a country. ~http://englishrussia.com/2011/07/21/the-afghanistan-of-the-50s-60s/#more-60639

While, Iraq we didn't install a leader but we wasted 10 years there at first removing Saddam Hussein and then the rest of the time trying to fight against a guerilla resistance which has still lead to problems there today. Without war or bastard leaders, Iraq could probably be as rich as the UAE with all the oil it has

But really, i'm not suprised we get extremist muslims today when we lead to the destruction of their society by removing their leaders (whether democratic or dictatorial). There is no law and order left and there are so bound by their religious beliefs, they will do anything to further the cause. It's sounds similar to what communism once was, as you find it was very popular in the countries worst hit by world war II, which is why America tried to fund their reconstruction, although it was too late for some countries.   

The Iraq war, as stupid as it was, did get rid of Saddam the decades long dictator and brought democracy to Iraq. Since then the Iraqis are the onest that have been killing each other along sectarian lines and failing the responsibility to promote democratic values and culture. In Lybia, the rebels were literally about to get crushed before the west intervened and Qaddafi would be in power today if it wasn't for NATO air strikes. The Lybian military had taken several towns and rebel lines were falling apart and the Qaddafi army was marching to Benghazi to end the revolution. 



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mai said:
Ckmlb1 said:
mai said:

Of course, I do. Finally cannibals will be equated in rights with the rest of the people in that country.

Sorry, but the heart of a dead soldier being eaten by one man (as shocking as the sight is) is less of a travesty as the tens of thousands of civilians wiped out by Assad by air and artillery in indiscriminate bombardment. Large swathes of Aleppo (largest city in Syria and economic heart of the country) have literally been pulverized and the only side that has the ability for such destruction of whole neighborhoods of buildings (provided by the peacemakers Russia) is the government. 

@Kazs, see what I'm talking about? *facepalm*

Once again, what's the bigger crime: eating the heart of a dead soldier or killing, raping and torturing tens of thousands of your people for 40 years? 



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MoHasanie said:
Gamerace said:
MoHasanie said:
Nope, I support the Syrian government. Iran, Hezbollah, and Russia all support the government, but the United States does not. Seeing that Syria, Iran and Hezbollah are enemies of the United States, its obvious the United States destabilized the country and wants to overthrow the government. Also, why would Bashar al Assad suddenly become an evil dictator if he was ruling Syria fine before that?

He's an evil dictator (like his father before him who also killed tens of thousands of his own people) because unlike in Egypt where their dictator stepped aside so the people could elect their own leader, he instead wages war against (what at that time were) innocent people.   He created this war himself and since he really doesn't care if all the Sunnis were whipped out he'll keep it going as long as it takes.

How do you know he's an evil dictator? Before the Arab spring, people of both Suni and Shia faithsas well as Christians were all living in together peacefully. 

Also, you can't rely on Western media to get your information cause it is all biased. 

Because I have Syrian friends who left the country years ago because it was run by a selfish dictator (former Assad's father) who also killed tens of thousands of Syrians to maintain his control.   Regardless of how 'peaceful' the country was, the fact is simply, he would rather killed thousands of innocents than step aside, (he bombed whole city neighbours killing women and children) which caused the peaceful protest to evolve into the civil war that we have now.   And why do you think there were peaceful protest demanding he step down in the first place?  Because he was doing such a great job running the country?   

What if instead of having an election Obama decided to bomb red states instead?  That is the equivelant of what has happened here.   I can't imagine anyone would be saying irate 'redneck' Americans trying to overthrow him would be worse than he is.  But that what's happening here too.