mtu9356 said:
disolitude said:
Nem said:
disolitude said:
mtu9356 said:
disolitude said:
I guess the definition of games working vs being enjoyable and played as they are meant to can be argued here. I played Dead rising on xbox 360 on a 32 inch SD TV while I was at my friends cottage for a week. It wasn't nearly as fun as it was on my HDTv at home.
We don't know yet for sure since we don't know what will be available without internet, but similar situation may be applied about next gen games and internet.
You will deffinetly not have as much fun without internet, but this may come with reduced content available and not lack of visual stimulation in the SD vs HD debate last gen. People buckled down and bought HGTV's throughout last gen... so wouldn't it be fair to say that it may time to buckle down and get high speed internet durring this gen?
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You really can't compare buying an hd tv (product) with paying for internet (service).
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On a definition term basis you're absolutely right. they are 2 different things.
However on where our society and economy is at today VS back in 2005, I think they are comparable. Services are essentially the new products these days. Products tend to be free even but the tie in service is what you end up paying for...
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Stop the presses! Marketing has just been re-invented by disolitude. Lets write new books and manuals because it all changed... or not. A product and a service are vastly different things, wich you seem to be mixing up with customer relationship.
Sorry, but youre talking nonsense.
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I am not sure what you are refering to here since you decided to reply with banter and sarcasm instead of comprehensable information.
I aknowledge the differences between services and producs...completely different things. All I said is that services are much more prominant in 2013 than 2005 so asking for a service subscription in order for a product to work properly isnt as far fetched as you kids make it seem.
Also there is the fact is that game companies have been trying to turn games in to a "service" instead of a "product" for many years, with season and all access passes, monthly memberships and free to play models eventually turning a game in to a service.
Even Xbox is expected to be sold at a discount if bundled with an xbl monthly service...this trend will only continue.
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The problem still remains that much of the world(parts of the u.s. included) don't have the infrastructure to provide internet access. This problem won't be going away anytime soon.
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But will those people have the need for a 400+ dollar gaming entertainment hub in their livingroom?
Im not saying there won't be an odd person here and there who really has internet roadblocks but would like to own a entertainment center like Xbox One. The % of those people will be relatively low in my opinion.
The way I see it:
If you have no high speed internet, and no way of getting internet you are not in a market for a next gen console for different reasons
If you have high speed internet available, but can't afford it, again you are not in the market for the next gen consoles
if you have high speed internet but its "spotty" and disconnects often, you should be able to enjoy the console as you would any other console (single player mostly, multiplayer when internet is available)