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What type of negative thread are you tire of seeing on VgChartz?

Vita is DOOM 36 23.38%
 
WiiU get no 3rd Parties support 60 38.96%
 
XBL Gold is a rip-off 57 37.01%
 
Total:153
Imaginedvl said:

These people are not debating; they are just coming in threads (even this one like Wagram and DigitalDevilSummoner) and trolling by stating "facts". there is no place for debate or anything as they are just posting with the assumption that their oppinions is defacto the only valid one and instead of trying to debate with others about the good and the bad of Xbox Live Gold they are just insulting them by ignoring their oppinion.

I am willing to admit that I'm half wrong here since I could have just said "I'm tired of hate, not facts." without my examples.

BUT the thing is the term "negative thread" is vague, it could mean either a serious discussion or hate rants.

The problem is that these PARTICULAR three issues "Vita is DOOM,WiiU get no 3rd Parties support, XBL Gold is a rip-off" have been discussed extensively so they would most likely fall in the category of a " serious discussion". To VGchartz regulars they might be tiresome but I cannot really care since we cannot bury real issues and discuss them only once for fear they might bore someone. If you have concrete arguments, go ahead, use them everytime but you cannot seriouly imply we should stop talking about industry changing issues.

You accuse me of taking my opinions as truths, yet you imply that once these issues are discussed ONCE they are done ! YOU ARROGANTLY ASSUME they they are deplteted, exhausted and that noone else has anything of value to contribute.

Get off your high horse. If the issue demands it, we shall talk about it over and over.



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those "WiiU will be fine" threads. i mean damn it how is the industry supposed to be live if nintendo isnt doomed throughout every generation?



I'm tired of people saying, again and again, that Wii U is like Gamecube/Dreamcast and that it is getting no 3rd party support, because it's all false. The situation of Wii U is nothing like those old systems, and it is getting Watch_Dogs, AC4, Batman and so on, and probably others. The recent one about COD: Ghosts that had something about no Wii U version when there was nothing about PS4 or NextBox either typifies these tiresome, bias, unfounded comments.

There are lots of reason to bash the Wii U, these repetitive comments are not among them.



Personally, I'm tired of the WiiU hate threads and the condescending and elitist attitude of some users there.

Objectively, I suppose the XBL Gold threads are the worst of the bunch. They are putting people's judgement into question for paying for the service.



morenoingrato said:
Personally, I'm tired of the WiiU hate threads and the condescending and elitist attitude of some users there.

Objectively, I suppose the XBL Gold threads are the worst of the bunch. They are putting people's judgement into question for paying for the service.

As I said, the thread does NOT specifically refer to hate threads but negative threads in general.

 And my response is:

DigitalDevilSummoner said:

If the issue demands it, we shall talk about it over and over.


You cannot assume these issues are depleted because they spoil the image of your favourite brand.



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Imaginedvl said:
BloodyRain said:
Imaginedvl said:

All of these; these threads are really annoying. And lately it is very worse if you ask me.

But in all honesty, we cannot avoid trolling, just look at this thread; lets do a quick recap of "who" has no problem with negativity:

Wagram, Brendude13, DigitalDevilSummoner : Did not get the point of the thread about people getting "annoyed" for that exact kind of reply with their very own opinions always stated as a general "fact". I wish they would understand that this is really annoying and insulting for a lot of people who do not have any problem with Xbox Live Gold. I do not understand why they need to do that; esp. if they are not the ones paying for XBLG.
Bloodyrain: Not funny.
VGKing: Champion of trolling Xbox/MS related thread with negativity is "tired" of negativity :)

Also, if you look at who is responding "negatively" to your thread... And I'm not making anything here; just look at the replies: Sony's loyalists... And honestly it is not because Sony's loyalists are posting more negative stuffs; it is just because you mentioned the Xbox Live Gold subscription.

How the hell am I a sony loyalist when all I said was that they were amusing to me? That is my own opinion on them and that goes for all kinds of threads. They are legit discussions on various things that could be debated and sometimes people get way to caught up in it. Though I do admit that the titles could be worded better like xbox live is a rip off could be Is Xbox Live gold worth it or something like that.

No arguing there with the titling or even with the fact that people can get carried away.
You did not make any comment on that, just said you were not funny, did not want to put you in the list of SL, my appologies (got carried away .

But my main point is really about the fact that debating about Xbox Live gold worthing something for someone and not for someone else is defintely good and the objective of any forums (which is to debate/talk).

These people are not debating; they are just coming in threads (even this one like Wagram and DigitalDevilSummoner) and trolling by stating "facts". there is no place for debate or anything as they are just posting with the assumption that their oppinions is defacto the only valid one and instead of trying to debate with others about the good and the bad of Xbox Live Gold they are just insulting them by ignoring their oppinion.

You know I'm reading VGCharts forums to talk/debate about a lot of topic; but this kind of behavior is just ruining a lot of good threads (esp. lately). When you end up just arguing about the fact that their oppinion is not everyone's oppinion instead of debating on the thread's topic (like we are doing now; but they did not); this is where I find it not funny anymore and the thread is ruinned.

oh lol, it's all good, the only part that bothered me was being labeled as an sl. Yes I do agree with people stating things as facts when they are simply an opinion. It kind of just closes the window of discussion with them since there would be no point in debating "facts". Ya debates and criticism is a good thing for discussion, but stating certain things as facts that can be debated just kind ruins it.



Anything with a thread title that invokes "Betteridges' Law". Shittiness at its shittiest.



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I think the threads are not the problem it are some people that are the problem. If you create a vita is doomed thread or a vita is not doomed thread you get possible the same people bitching in it and fuck up the discussion with some made up proof like 'Vita is doomed because nobody of my friends have it and I only know this uber nerd who had one but he sold it' or 'Everyone have a Vita of my friends Vgchartz numbers are just so wrong'.



 

DigitalDevilSummoner said:
Imaginedvl said:

These people are not debating; they are just coming in threads (even this one like Wagram and DigitalDevilSummoner) and trolling by stating "facts". there is no place for debate or anything as they are just posting with the assumption that their oppinions is defacto the only valid one and instead of trying to debate with others about the good and the bad of Xbox Live Gold they are just insulting them by ignoring their oppinion.

 

Get off your high horse. If the issue demands it, we shall talk about it over and over.

It isn't demanded.  it is just a few arrogant fans who thinks there opinions are all that matters.  I could make a ton of threads geared to have these same results and I guarante you would not like a few ;)  

However i don't because I see no need in them.  users like Somini wants these type of arguments.  And I do agree with Imaginedvl about some f the things he said.  many of the people who are disagreeing with this thread are the same people who are feeding those threads.  I would prefer if people just ignored those threads but people are always baited in.

You say that it is damanded but I don't think you could really give me any legit reasons other than them being able to cause arguments.

If I like XBLG So be it.
If I like the WiiU and I think it will be a success so be it
If I like the Vita and think it will be a success so be it.

But I don't go around making threads about why everyday.  I also don't make threads on the huge success of XBLG everyday but for some reason we have the exact opposite.  And pay attention to the people who make these threads.  They are NEVER people who are fans of that company. ALWAYS fans of an opposing company.  Now explain that?




       

DigitalDevilSummoner said:
Imaginedvl said:

hese people are not debating; they are just coming in threads (even this one like Wagram and DigitalDevilSummoner) and trolling by stating "facts". there is no place for debate or anything as they are just posting with the assumption that their oppinions is defacto the only valid one and instead of trying to debate with others about the good and the bad of Xbox Live Gold they are just insulting them by ignoring their oppinion.

I am willing to admit that I'm half wrong here since I could have just said "I'm tired of hate, not facts." without my examples.

BUT the thing is the term "negative thread" is vague, it could mean either a serious discussion or hate rants.

The problem is that these PARTICULAR three issues "Vita is DOOM,WiiU get no 3rd Parties support, XBL Gold is a rip-off" have been discussed extensively so they would most likely fall in the category of a " serious discussion". To VGchartz regulars they might be tiresome but I cannot really care since we cannot bury real issues and discuss them only once for fear they might bore someone. If you have concrete arguments, go ahead, use them everytime but you cannot seriouly imply we should stop talking about industry changing issues.

You accuse me of taking my opinions as truths, yet you imply that once these issues are discussed ONCE they are done ! YOU ARROGANTLY ASSUME they they are deplteted, exhausted and that noone else has anything of value to contribute.

Get off your high horse. If the issue demands it, we shall talk about it over and over.

Really... Did you even read what I said? You are not EVEN talking about what I was referring too..
Say whatever you want; this thread is right in every way... And you are just proving he is right.

You are talking about being arrogant lol

That's you : "The XBL is a rip off, it's charging you again and again for what should be an integral part of the console.""

This is arrogant, insulting for people who think otherwise (there are plenty) and these are not FACTS but your personnal oppion.
And this mainly why threads about different topics are ruined. Because we 90% of the posts are about arrogant members taking their dreams/oppinions for "facts" and just arguing about that instead of the real issue.