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platformmaster918 on 11 April 2013

It'll be interesting to see how much PS2 has sold




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bananaking21 on 11 April 2013

27 days before it is announced? this thread is way too soon



platformmaster918 on 11 April 2013
kowenicki said:
platformmaster918 said:
It'll be interesting to see how much PS2 has sold


it hasnt been confirmed they stopped globally yet though has it.  So you wont get that number.

I didn't mean final numbers just how it did this quarter.  Of course with Sony claiming to have shipped more PS3s than VGC claims we may have to guess since we won't just be able to subtract the number.




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platformmaster918 on 11 April 2013
kowenicki said:
platformmaster918 said:
kowenicki said:
platformmaster918 said:
It'll be interesting to see how much PS2 has sold


it hasnt been confirmed they stopped globally yet though has it.  So you wont get that number.

I didn't mean final numbers just how it did this quarter.  Of course with Sony claiming to have shipped more PS3s than VGC claims we may have to guess since we won't just be able to subtract the number.

Nothing to do with VGC, you would still definitely have to guess.  Its a joint number now and for almost a year.


Yeah I know that's just how Sony reports it but I was talking about Sony and their statements on 77 million shipped (yes I know shipped is not vgc numbers).  Love the sig btw




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huiii on 11 April 2013

i'll post some predictions intead of just saying "tagging"

-i expect an operational loss (if you subtract the profit from selling assets, i don't get why they put that in the operational part anyway shouln't that be extrordinary profit?)

-music and film should be profitable
-phones: if the z launch is included i expect a verry small profit if not, loss. (i remember reading they sold more z's in a week than other phones in a month or something along the line (i may have the timeline wrong ;p ))
-gaming division should be a small profit, depending on ps4 R&D
-cameras should be profitable
-their home entertainment division (tv's and stuff) will post a buttraping loss

i think that's it do they have any other divisions?

Edit: oh and financial services should be profitable.

also i have no idea what i'm talking about, all just seculation so feel free to thell me how wrong i am.



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Turkish on 11 April 2013
kowenicki said:
Turkish said:
Expect 1.5m for PS3+PS2


That would be a big drop.  PS3 did 1.9m alone this qtr last year.


Yeah I was quite pessimistic, its more likely between 1.5-2m



ethomaz on 11 April 2013
platformmaster918 said:
kowenicki said:
platformmaster918 said:
kowenicki said:
platformmaster918 said:
It'll be interesting to see how much PS2 has sold


it hasnt been confirmed they stopped globally yet though has it.  So you wont get that number.

I didn't mean final numbers just how it did this quarter.  Of course with Sony claiming to have shipped more PS3s than VGC claims we may have to guess since we won't just be able to subtract the number.

Nothing to do with VGC, you would still definitely have to guess.  Its a joint number now and for almost a year.


Yeah I know that's just how Sony reports it but I was talking about Sony and their statements on 77 million shipped (yes I know shipped is not vgc numbers).  Love the sig btw

I think Sony next statement will be post when the PS3 reach the 80 million milestone.



ethomaz on 11 April 2013

huiii said:
 -i expect an operational loss (if you subtract the profit from selling assets, i don't get why they put that in the operational part anyway shouln't that be extrordinary profit?)

I don't know too but I used the same words found in the official documents... so they will record the sales like operation profit... only one share will be recorded like other profite.



ethomaz on 11 April 2013
bananaking21 said:
27 days before it is announced? this thread is way too soon

Well the Microsoft and Nintendo were opened last week... more than 20 days before too lol... I will try to post some news to make the things more interesting.



ethomaz on 11 April 2013
kowenicki said:

Bloomberg

 

Sony Sticks With TV Profit Target Amid Declining Market Share

 

By Mariko Yasu - Apr 11, 2013 5:38 AM GMT+0100

Sony Corp. (6758) is sticking with a goal of turning Japan’s largest TV-manufacturing business profitable this fiscal year even as it continues losing global market share to Samsung Electronics Co. (005930)

Sony plans to increase TV sales this fiscal year from a target of 13.5 million units in the year ended March 31, Masashi Imamura, a senior vice president in charge of home entertainment products at Sony, told reporters in Tokyo today. He didn’t give a new number.

 

 

The TV business probably lost about 80 billion yen ($804 million) in the fiscal year ended March 31, Imamura said, reiterating a company projection from February for a ninth straight year of losses. Chief Executive Officer Kazuo Hirai is focusing on high-end products, such as the ultra-high definition Bravia sets that offer resolution four times sharper than conventional models, as part of plans to revive the operation.

“Major operational reform at the unit is over,” Imamura said. “We will continue to make efforts to trim costs this fiscal year. We have reduced the costs we had planned to reduce in fiscal 2012, and that will help us make the business profitable.”

The company trimmed its full-year TV sales target to 13.5 million units in February from the 17.5 million projected at the beginning of the fiscal year, citing a slowing global economy. The company is reducing the number of models and cutting 10,000 jobs to lower expenses after losing about 31 percent of its market value last year.

Not good for TVs... a big drop yoy.