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Nsanity on 07 April 2013
ethomaz said:

Nsanity said:

That looks fan made.

It really looks... now I don't know.



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Stinky on 07 April 2013

I'm amazed that Halo continues to hold its own against the juggernaut CoD. Not many games can make a dent there.



Stinky on 07 April 2013
SaberSaurus said:
Going by this http://halocharts.com/2012/chart/dailypeakpopulation/all Halo 4's MP really was a flop.


Are you serious? How many games can claim regular 30-40k players online?



Stinky on 07 April 2013

Mr Puggsly said:

What doubts are there to have? There are significantly less people playing and some playlists are completely empty. You were so desperate to prove Halo 3 is more active than Halo 4 but you failed.

Either way, Halo 3 probably was more active in its prime, it had less competition. I mean CoD, BF, and Gears have grown tremendously since the launch of Halo 3. Then you got a hundred other games with online activity. No big deal, Halo is still doing more than fine.


I remember Halo3 would regularly be 100-200k online before MW2 came out, but it's pretty quiet now. The guy is trolling.



VGKing on 07 April 2013
fastyxx said:
When Halo 3 was out, there were about 3 games worth playing online - let alone total for the system. Early in the lifecycle, and it was THE game.

Halo 4's lower player total daily isn't about the game. It's about choice. There are currently 952 Xbox 360 titles, and 536 XBLA titles.

That's 1500 games to compete with. And that's just on the one platform.

So if there's 50 million Live users, and maybe 60% are Gold members, that's 30 million players. Let's say only HALF the total titles are viable (some are so old and crappy no one is playing them.) 30 million divided by 750 games is 40,000 users. So IF EVERY gold user played a game EVERY night, then 40,000 per title would be expected. But of course that's totally unrealistic.

The fact that Halo 4 has the number of users it HAS off 8 million sales is remarkable - - not tragic. Some of your expectations are quite sad.

No, its not remarkable. It's actually pretty low. Expectations for a Halo game are very high, as they should be.



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ethomaz on 07 April 2013

Stinky said:

I remember Halo3 would regularly be 100-200k online before MW2 came out, but it's pretty quiet now. The guy is trolling.

Trolling? Sure I'm trolling... Oh God people can't see the Halo 4 MP is not popular like the previous Halos... the numbers after four months is depressing for the franchise... Halo 3 after this time had over 1 million players per day... even Reach had that.



dsage01 on 07 April 2013
kain_kusanagi said:
It's the best Halo multiplayer of all time and it's in the top 5 XBLA games. It's the 3rd most popular online shooter 6 months after release. COD is a phenomenon so it beating Halo 4 doesn't mean Halo 4 is a flop it just means that COD is THAT BIG. COD is just as good as Halo and if more people are playing COD that just tells me that more people like modern combat than Sci-Fi. I like both and prefer Sci-Fi, but it's just a matter of taste. Both are top of their class shooters. The only people that don't like Halo 4's multiplayer are the ones that still wish they could exploit Halo 2's broken gameplay to pwn newbs. Those of us that enjoy refinement can't get enough of Halo 4.

Referring to anything related to Halo 4 as a flop is a hilarious overstatement.


Halo 2 was amazing! Probably the best FPS next to the orignal Halo in my book. Halo 4 is amazing but no where near Halo 1 and Halo 2. 



Stinky on 07 April 2013
ethomaz said:

Stinky said:

I remember Halo3 would regularly be 100-200k online before MW2 came out, but it's pretty quiet now. The guy is trolling.

Trolling? Sure I'm trolling... Oh God people can't see the Halo 4 MP is not popular like the previous Halos... the numbers after four months is depressing for the franchise... Halo 3 after this time had over 1 million players per day... even Reach had that.


Halo 3 wasn't competing with two other Halo games and four blockbuster CoD titles. When Halo3 launched, that was it. It's not as big as it was, sure, but to say it's a flop is pure trolling.



EspadaGrim on 07 April 2013
ethomaz said:

Mr Puggsly said:

That's right, IN YOUR OPINION. A lot of us feel Halo 4 is the best its the best the multiplayer has ever been. I don't feel anything in Halo 4 is a step back. Maybe your nostalgia of the older games is the issue.

If that was only me .

Halo 3 has a better MP than Halo 4.


As a long time Halo fan i would agree with you the biggest reason is because of the ranking system H4 is not as balanced as it was in H3(ranked and social playslists 1-50 ect) it's too competitive for someone who is new to the game i had a friend join me for a MP match he mostly plays COD and he raged quit in 3mins because he couldn't get a kill and kept dying.Also i personally don't count it as a flop.



EspadaGrim on 07 April 2013
Stinky said:
ethomaz said:

Stinky said:

I remember Halo3 would regularly be 100-200k online before MW2 came out, but it's pretty quiet now. The guy is trolling.

Trolling? Sure I'm trolling... Oh God people can't see the Halo 4 MP is not popular like the previous Halos... the numbers after four months is depressing for the franchise... Halo 3 after this time had over 1 million players per day... even Reach had that.


Halo 3 wasn't competing with two other Halo games and four blockbuster CoD titles. When Halo3 launched, that was it. It's not as big as it was, sure, but to say it's a flop is pure trolling.


Pretty much spot on my friend H3 wasn't competing againsts other shooters at that time and COD didn't take off until MW1 and every COD after that became the best selling games this generation on all platforms but to call Halo 4 a flop is stupid.