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fillet said:
Th3PANO said:
fillet said:

Wii-U not "next gen" confirmed, as all sensible people stated already and as all desperate people denied.

Was plain as day already.

This is not a fanboy comment but people really need to stop taking things so personally and acting so precious. Some of us take a genuine interest in the hardware and couldn't give a monekys if it is or isn't next gen on a defensive personal level! The Wii-U will surely receive some top games during it's lifetime including the usual Nintendo greats, that isn't in question.

I'm very pleased a top developer from a top development company that's respected has finally come out and said it. It should even help with the "is Wii-U next gen" threads.

Good all round for everyone :)

*I have a Wii-U, (have every console except Vita) and take no delight in this announcement but do take delight in clearing up the mystery.

Amen!

seriously, what the fuck are you expecting. this is like real life. when a smart ass tries over and over again to proof everyone wrong and make people feel bad for their opinion, of course they will get defensive.

Not sure I follow?

At the end of the day he's stated his opinion in a somewhat boistrous fashion, but his job isn't one of an "ambassador to video games". He can say what he damn well likes imo, and he's damn well qualified to say it. Why would this annoy people? I realize my view isn't going to be popular here and I'm defo in the minority but it's a reasoned opinion and has merit I feel. Just discussion, not meaning to wind anyone up here :)

i'm not talking about him hating on a specific groud of fans. but on all the haters saying*fu and your system, trollolol wii u*" of course people owning this system will be in defend mode, nature son, nature....



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fillet said:

Have to bear in mind that just because these people make games doesn't mean they give a flying F (sorry but I really mean it that strongly) about "gamers", games consoles - in the precious sense or anything of the kind.

People need to understand and think outside the box, these ARE professional people, they just don't live computer games, they live coding computer games, very different things.

Just about every game dev studio I've seen is filled with big fat nerds and toys and game art/posters galore; most of these guys are clearly very passionate about the gaming industry. That said, I'm sure there are higher ups who are disconnected and not so involved in the actually creation process...



possibly going to be a big gen for Sony and Microsoft, maybe even for just one of them.



Th3PANO said:
fillet said:
Th3PANO said:
fillet said:

Wii-U not "next gen" confirmed, as all sensible people stated already and as all desperate people denied.

Was plain as day already.

This is not a fanboy comment but people really need to stop taking things so personally and acting so precious. Some of us take a genuine interest in the hardware and couldn't give a monekys if it is or isn't next gen on a defensive personal level! The Wii-U will surely receive some top games during it's lifetime including the usual Nintendo greats, that isn't in question.

I'm very pleased a top developer from a top development company that's respected has finally come out and said it. It should even help with the "is Wii-U next gen" threads.

Good all round for everyone :)

*I have a Wii-U, (have every console except Vita) and take no delight in this announcement but do take delight in clearing up the mystery.

Amen!

seriously, what the fuck are you expecting. this is like real life. when a smart ass tries over and over again to proof everyone wrong and make people feel bad for their opinion, of course they will get defensive.

Not sure I follow?

At the end of the day he's stated his opinion in a somewhat boistrous fashion, but his job isn't one of an "ambassador to video games". He can say what he damn well likes imo, and he's damn well qualified to say it. Why would this annoy people? I realize my view isn't going to be popular here and I'm defo in the minority but it's a reasoned opinion and has merit I feel. Just discussion, not meaning to wind anyone up here :)

i'm not talking about him hating on a specific groud of fans. but on all the haters saying*fu and your system, trollolol wii u*" of course people owning this system will be in defend mode, nature son, nature....

Completely agree, I didn't mean to sound smart ass (well I did a little :p) suppose it was more of a "told you so" comment puffed up into a post. Not trying to poke fun at Wii-U owners at all, but more to the current general view that the Wii-U is a next gen console in terms of performance.

That's not a terrible thing, it is what it is and the future is yet to be known in terms of how well it's going to do.

Obviously comments like his are hardly going to help, and you are actually very right in what you say.

I suppose I'm thinking more of the happy medium, the overall view is usually eternally optimistic by the fanbase of each console/company and thus negative news is countered with extremely defensive comments. On the other hand there's people who love to see these fans fail. I'm not that type of person, but it's certainly refreshing for the fog to be lifted.

In the ideal world, all consoles would be slagged off equally and nobody would give a damn about who says what, why can't we have that?



Andrespetmonkey said:
fillet said:

Have to bear in mind that just because these people make games doesn't mean they give a flying F (sorry but I really mean it that strongly) about "gamers", games consoles - in the precious sense or anything of the kind.

People need to understand and think outside the box, these ARE professional people, they just don't live computer games, they live coding computer games, very different things.

Just about every game dev studio I've seen is filled with big fat nerds and toys and game art/posters galore; most of these guys are clearly very passionate about the gaming industry. That said, I'm sure there are higher ups who are disconnected and not so involved in the actually creation process...

True, but then there's a definite line between appreciating the games that people have created on a technical level and loving games and a certain console and so forth. I would guess logically that an accomplished developer has their favourite platforms to code on of course, but that would be on a technical level and I doubt they have an emotional link, which many gamers do.

He obviously didn't set out to offend and surely that's enough. Straight talk is something we don't get enough of these days in the corporate world, and his talk was as straight as you can get.



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fillet said:
Th3PANO said:
fillet said:
Th3PANO said:
fillet said:

Wii-U not "next gen" confirmed, as all sensible people stated already and as all desperate people denied.

Was plain as day already.

This is not a fanboy comment but people really need to stop taking things so personally and acting so precious. Some of us take a genuine interest in the hardware and couldn't give a monekys if it is or isn't next gen on a defensive personal level! The Wii-U will surely receive some top games during it's lifetime including the usual Nintendo greats, that isn't in question.

I'm very pleased a top developer from a top development company that's respected has finally come out and said it. It should even help with the "is Wii-U next gen" threads.

Good all round for everyone :)

*I have a Wii-U, (have every console except Vita) and take no delight in this announcement but do take delight in clearing up the mystery.

Amen!

seriously, what the fuck are you expecting. this is like real life. when a smart ass tries over and over again to proof everyone wrong and make people feel bad for their opinion, of course they will get defensive.

Not sure I follow?

At the end of the day he's stated his opinion in a somewhat boistrous fashion, but his job isn't one of an "ambassador to video games". He can say what he damn well likes imo, and he's damn well qualified to say it. Why would this annoy people? I realize my view isn't going to be popular here and I'm defo in the minority but it's a reasoned opinion and has merit I feel. Just discussion, not meaning to wind anyone up here :)

i'm not talking about him hating on a specific groud of fans. but on all the haters saying*fu and your system, trollolol wii u*" of course people owning this system will be in defend mode, nature son, nature....

Completely agree, I didn't mean to sound smart ass (well I did a little :p) suppose it was more of a "told you so" comment puffed up into a post. Not trying to poke fun at Wii-U owners at all, but more to the current general view that the Wii-U is a next gen console in terms of performance.

That's not a terrible thing, it is what it is and the future is yet to be known in terms of how well it's going to do.

Obviously comments like his are hardly going to help, and you are actually very right in what you say.

I suppose I'm thinking more of the happy medium, the overall view is usually eternally optimistic by the fanbase of each console/company and thus negative news is countered with extremely defensive comments. On the other hand there's people who love to see these fans fail. I'm not that type of person, but it's certainly refreshing for the fog to be lifted.

In the ideal world, all consoles would be slagged off equally and nobody would give a damn about who says what, why can't we have that?

i personally think that the internet ruined the community. before this massive media pressence there still were battles on commercials but it never was like "lol you own that system?? dafuq"it was more like " hey cool, you have that console? let's play some games!" it didn't matter that much. you just played what you liked.



Th3PANO said:
fillet said:
Th3PANO said:
fillet said:
Th3PANO said:
fillet said:

Wii-U not "next gen" confirmed, as all sensible people stated already and as all desperate people denied.

Was plain as day already.

This is not a fanboy comment but people really need to stop taking things so personally and acting so precious. Some of us take a genuine interest in the hardware and couldn't give a monekys if it is or isn't next gen on a defensive personal level! The Wii-U will surely receive some top games during it's lifetime including the usual Nintendo greats, that isn't in question.

I'm very pleased a top developer from a top development company that's respected has finally come out and said it. It should even help with the "is Wii-U next gen" threads.

Good all round for everyone :)

*I have a Wii-U, (have every console except Vita) and take no delight in this announcement but do take delight in clearing up the mystery.

Amen!

seriously, what the fuck are you expecting. this is like real life. when a smart ass tries over and over again to proof everyone wrong and make people feel bad for their opinion, of course they will get defensive.

Not sure I follow?

At the end of the day he's stated his opinion in a somewhat boistrous fashion, but his job isn't one of an "ambassador to video games". He can say what he damn well likes imo, and he's damn well qualified to say it. Why would this annoy people? I realize my view isn't going to be popular here and I'm defo in the minority but it's a reasoned opinion and has merit I feel. Just discussion, not meaning to wind anyone up here :)

i'm not talking about him hating on a specific groud of fans. but on all the haters saying*fu and your system, trollolol wii u*" of course people owning this system will be in defend mode, nature son, nature....

Completely agree, I didn't mean to sound smart ass (well I did a little :p) suppose it was more of a "told you so" comment puffed up into a post. Not trying to poke fun at Wii-U owners at all, but more to the current general view that the Wii-U is a next gen console in terms of performance.

That's not a terrible thing, it is what it is and the future is yet to be known in terms of how well it's going to do.

Obviously comments like his are hardly going to help, and you are actually very right in what you say.

I suppose I'm thinking more of the happy medium, the overall view is usually eternally optimistic by the fanbase of each console/company and thus negative news is countered with extremely defensive comments. On the other hand there's people who love to see these fans fail. I'm not that type of person, but it's certainly refreshing for the fog to be lifted.

In the ideal world, all consoles would be slagged off equally and nobody would give a damn about who says what, why can't we have that?

i personally think that the internet ruined the community. before that massive media pressence there still were battles on commercials but it never was like "lol you own that system?? dafuq"it was more like " hey cool, you have a that console, let's play some games!" it didn#t matter that much. you just played what you liked.

Agree more than I've agreed with anything for a long time with this comment.

I miss the days when it was Sonic Vs Mario in the playground, and not Sony Vs MS.... :( The former is a character Vs character, the 2nd is a nasty load of crap...or inevitibly spirals to that.

...Talk about depressing, who's to blame? Not sure, likely as you say the advent of mass media and big business. After all, we're just pawns at the end of the day.



Soriku said:
M.U.G.E.N said:

Well Cryengine is definitely good news then. I think Luminous..at least a scaled version will make it over too. Not sure about FOX


Depends on how many things SE uses Luminous for. FF XV won't be on the Wii U.


That's a very good point. 

But what other engine do SE use? If they are using UE4 the other projects in the future that could be a problem as well. 



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Barozi said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
So can someone tell me 'what' works now?

FB3 is out
UE4 is out

Cryengine?
Luminous?
Fox?

Any word on them?

Crytek had CryEngine 3 already running on WiiU, but I think it's time for CryEngine 4 soon. another 2 years at most.

WiiU could get Homefront 2. Another Crysis game will probably use the new engine to show the new power and the next Darksiders (if they get the license) or whatever that team is doing at the moment won't be finished during the next 24 months either.
TimeSplitters 4... well let's better not talk about that.

Yeah wouldn't be surprised to see Cryengine 4 soon...it will be mainly an issue in a few years tho I guess as you say

I still think (gut feeling lol). I think Homefront 1 sucked right? If 2 is similar it won't be much of an issue to miss out on that one. I forgot they were interested in getting the Darksiders license..since no one else really seem to want it I guess they will get it.

I think Nintendo's best bet is to do more Bayo2 like projects. Or give some incentives if need be to bring some of the bigger known multiplats to the wiiu



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I don't know about this, Wii had the same issue, and it is the best selling system of its gen. But can Wii U do the same? Definitly not, the market structure have changed a lot, people won't buy a console for its only 1st party games, 3rd parties are becoming more important with COD, AC, BF.. I'm a little worried about Ninty...