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TruckOSaurus said:

 

JoeTheBro said:
TruckOSaurus said:

Welcome to Console Wars, the game where everything can happen and specs don't matter.

Almost! but now that memegenerator is back online, here's what I had in mind:


Well yours is thread specific. I can literally post my version in any thread about next gen and it will apply.



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bananaking21 said:
GribbleGrunger said:
bananaking21 said:
GribbleGrunger said:
bananaking21 said:
Chark said:
I don't understand why he like the light bar so much when its application might be a big down grade from using the current motion controllers, all though having full controls on a motion controller is a good thing it being stuck on a normal dual stick controller doesn't seem like it would work as well. Also, the share button is way better than what he is pointing it out to be. Live streaming will be highly used, I'm sure gamers will love joining in a gaming session with their friend to chat up about the latest game they are playing or even just using it as a way to catch up with them on the fly.


i just dont understand what this will bring that sixaxis didnt. yeah it might be more accurate but so? if im interested in anything its the function to see how far away from the tv your sitting, because they didnt mention why they are doing that yet, so they might have a surprise up their sleve

I don't understand what it could offer that hasn't already been offered either. BUT ... If Sony are going to offer FULL BC through Gaikai at some point, wouldn't the controller have to be compatible too?


thats a good point, but why not just add sixaxis? i doubt it would cost anything really. and i doubt this light for motion control would cost less. also they are still different technologies so they would have to make this new motion tech work with the code or desgining of the games that relied on sixaxis. just because the princaple is the same doesnt mean that you could just replace it without any trouble or work

Yes, that I agree with too. We know it's going to be more accurate and we know that it will identify the player, but there's nothing it offers that would set it appart ... I don't know about the compatibility issue you mention when streaming. We'll just have to wait and see what all the features of the new controller are. I'm still convinced that screen flips up when you click it.


i meant making the motion controls compatible instead of the sixaxis for ps3 games when streamed.

thats an intersting threory, but why would they make it flip up?

It would be more convenient to look 'beyond' your controller at the TV screen than 'down' at your controller, then back up at your TV screen.

Can some kindly person please explain to me how I cut these trees down a little?



 

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Maybe they just meant like.... Move as in the move controller type movement controls....

but otherwise... did everyone forget about the Sixaxis?

 

I mean... i wouldn't be shocked if they did.

 

Still.



Your thread is in fact one of the most intelligent ones around.


The PS4 and Next Xbox are both x86... This means even more games will be ported then last gen.. Not only that, but this will revive PC gaming.. PC games will be easily ported to console or vice versa..

Since its virtually guaranteed MORE games will be ported.. you'll see the quality on PC, Xbox and PS4 closer then ever !! They are all x86.. the consoles will both have mid range GPU's - despite focus on the CPU's..

The Wii U can easily do 1080p and the PS4 and Next Xbox are much more powerful - It's already been said there wouldn't be a leap in graphics next gen ( PS4/ Nextbox ) .. the leap would be in better artificial intelligence - which would make for a more real submersive game environment..

There is a lot of naïve argument about which console is most powerful, but most of the time the most powerful console never wins and it tends to launch at a higher price. Sony needs to worry about a good launch price for PS4 (if it is indeed more powerful- because it cost more to make). In x86 games are built more around the GPU then the CPU - unlike games built for the PS3 ( which had to be optimized around the cpu 'Cell' and this cost more money that most studious weren't willing to spend )..

Much of the focus has been on what CPU's the PS4 and Nextbox will have and differences.. but Ive read both will have close to pretty much the same mid range GPU's; since x86 games tend to be graphically limited by GPU's ( Graphics cards in PC's ) the talk about CPU's is mostly posturing... Both systems will have much more bandwidth then todays systems ( which of which todays system hold up very well considering their age ).. Both systems will easily do 1080p at high frame rates..

Summary: Games will be ported more next gen, games will be closer in quality between system & PC.. Even the Wii U's games ( the multiplatform titles ) will look very close graphically to xbox and PS4 versions - all system easily do 1080p..

The only thing that will separate consoles are cool gimmicks that could actually turn out to be useable and well liked features - the problem is with everyone arguing about specs - most of us can't guess what's really in store for great new innovations.. there may be none or less then we think..

Games will be better - but mainly in Artificial Intelligence and vastness of game worlds due to 8 GIGS OF RAM and better hardware..



raf40928 said:
Your thread is in fact one of the most intelligent ones around.


The PS4 and Next Xbox are both x86... This means even more games will be ported then last gen.. Not only that, but this will revive PC gaming.. PC games will be easily ported to console or vice versa..

Since its virtually guaranteed MORE games will be ported.. you'll see the quality on PC, Xbox and PS4 closer then ever !! They are all x86.. the consoles will both have mid range GPU's - despite focus on the CPU's..

The Wii U can easily do 1080p and the PS4 and Next Xbox are much more powerful - It's already been said there wouldn't be a leap in graphics next gen ( PS4/ Nextbox ) .. the leap would be in better artificial intelligence - which would make for a more real submersive game environment..

There is a lot of naïve argument about which console is most powerful, but most of the time the most powerful console never wins and it tends to launch at a higher price. Sony needs to worry about a good launch price for PS4 (if it is indeed more powerful- because it cost more to make). In x86 games are built more around the GPU then the CPU - unlike games built for the PS3 ( which had to be optimized around the cpu 'Cell' and this cost more money that most studious weren't willing to spend )..

Much of the focus has been on what CPU's the PS4 and Nextbox will have and differences.. but Ive read both will have close to pretty much the same mid range GPU's; since x86 games tend to be graphically limited by GPU's ( Graphics cards in PC's ) the talk about CPU's is mostly posturing... Both systems will have much more bandwidth then todays systems ( which of which todays system hold up very well considering their age ).. Both systems will easily do 1080p at high frame rates..

Summary: Games will be ported more next gen, games will be closer in quality between system & PC.. Even the Wii U's games ( the multiplatform titles ) will look very close graphically to xbox and PS4 versions - all system easily do 1080p..

The only thing that will separate consoles are cool gimmicks that could actually turn out to be useable and well liked features - the problem is with everyone arguing about specs - most of us can't guess what's really in store for great new innovations.. there may be none or less then we think..

Games will be better - but mainly in Artificial Intelligence and vastness of game worlds due to 8 GIGS OF RAM and better hardware..

you seem to be completely forgetting about 1st party games.  Most games that can be ported have been this gen.




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GribbleGrunger said:
bananaking21 said:

i meant making the motion controls compatible instead of the sixaxis for ps3 games when streamed.

thats an intersting threory, but why would they make it flip up?

It would be more convenient to look 'beyond' your controller at the TV screen than 'down' at your controller, then back up at your TV screen.

Can some kindly person please explain to me how I cut these trees down a little?


i dont know if that would be helpfull, but lets wait and see

ohh and when qouting just simply erase the text. like when qouting me now you simply go to my earler post, highlight it and erase



platformmaster918 said:
bananaking21 said:
platformmaster918 said:
bananaking21 said:

i meant making the motion controls compatible instead of the sixaxis for ps3 games when streamed.

thats an intersting threory, but why would they make it flip up?

RUMOR:  Candy hidden inside every DS4!


PS4 wins next gen confirmed?

depends what candy.  If it's anything with mint I'm out.  If it's 3 Musketeers I'll spend...999 US dollars.  I also heard they don't let you trade or sell the candy in your DS4 to anyone else.

hershey kisses. and sony denied that rumer. used candy sales are allowed, but they recommend not to, because nobody wants to eat chocolate that somebody already chewed



bananaking21 said:
platformmaster918 said:
bananaking21 said:
platformmaster918 said:
bananaking21 said:

i meant making the motion controls compatible instead of the sixaxis for ps3 games when streamed.

thats an intersting threory, but why would they make it flip up?

RUMOR:  Candy hidden inside every DS4!


PS4 wins next gen confirmed?

depends what candy.  If it's anything with mint I'm out.  If it's 3 Musketeers I'll spend...999 US dollars.  I also heard they don't let you trade or sell the candy in your DS4 to anyone else.

hershey kisses. and sony denied that rumer. used candy sales are allowed, but they recommend not to, because nobody wants to eat chocolate that somebody already chewed

we better stop this before Kotaku catches wind and puts it up as "multiple sources confirm candy in DS4"




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coolguy said:
If weak specs console wins how come the weak specs hurt the wiiu
These guys who wrote this is on crack.

Specs don't matter is different than saying the cheapest console wins.  You have the case of the Dreamcast and Turbografx 16, both which were the weakest in their generations, failing miserably to their competition.  The thing is there is so many other factors at work, that there is no guarantee that specs alone win anything.



AbbathTheGrim said:
FrancisNobleman said:
JoeTheBro said:
Weak consoles sell more, light on PS4 is the second coming of jesus, and share button is all wrong!

Wii U the king of sales then.


WiiU will be the king of sales. It is just that consumers are waiting for confirmation that Nextbox and PS4 aren't actually weaker than the WiiU.

And if the Wii U fails to get the content that the PS4 and next Microsoft console get, then why would the Wii U be king?  It is back again to Nintendo not getting third party support.  The big deal would be a lack of RAM and if games code to it, you end up with PC, PS4 and Next Microsoft console and no Nintendo.