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Magnus86 on 14 March 2013
dane007 said:

Best gameplay in hack and slah series by a log shot really ? hahaha. You obviously haven't played many quality hack and slash games  becaue DMC series old and the new dmc one says hello!. The combat is so simple and lacks  the level of depth and teh variety of moves found in dmc. Because the combat of GOD of war is so simple, the pacing feels slow and sluggish especially in the latest installement. Before you bash for bein an anti Sony , i have the latest instlalemtn and  playing i t,, plu is played every single God of war game from ps2, ps3 and psp versions.  When you mention on hard , you die quick. The reason for that is not because its fair or skillful or the enmies are smarter.  Its just that the enemies are alot stronger , do more dmage and there tonnes of it which sometimes the camera fails to cope with it. What suprises me about all the reviews is that reviewers fails to mention the obvious slow down present in the lates GOW installement. Its obvious that it puzzle me how they can miss it. Theres no slowdown while you fight which i s good but there slowdown when you walk an d there things happening in the back ground and durign cut scenes.

Thirdly the story in GOW has never been good or award winning. In the previous installments is about Kratos being stupid and gullible which leads to him being tricked  which then leads him to rage and then provides him the motivate to kill people hence the god of war games from 1 -3 plus the psp versions. He to me is the dumbest videogma character ever created as its okay to be fooled once or twice but to be fooled all the time , the same exact way based on the same exact promises is hillarious. Makes you wonder who writes this scripts. Fourthy the the game changing deal is that god war doesn't use the greek mythology in any accurate form. Instead they just use their name nad make up the soty around it . Thats a shame as it could be a more interesting game if it followed the greek mythology properly.  In sayign all of this teh graphics are nice and to some extent beautiful but neither of it is WOW " jizz in my pants epic" because the game only  looks epic or wow stunning is when there is titan sized monster and kratos or important cutscenes . Apart from taht m when its aoomed out and you have to explore teh graphics are still good but nothign specials you can see lots of jaggies especially in the lates installments. Thats my opinion  i do respect yours and its good you  enjoy teh game. If  were to review it would be between adam sessler 3/5 review and 7/10 from eurogamer/ Its in between. 

Have you played Ascension? I don't think so.

Also it seams that you never played a GoW game before or you weren't talking like this. You may not like it but the description you gave about the game is absolutely BS. You are just talking by stereotypes and not as someone that has played the series.



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Jaywood2010 on 14 March 2013
Gamer_of_the_Year said:
JayWood2010 said:
Gamer_of_the_Year said:
JayWood2010 said:
Gamer_of_the_Year said:
JayWood2010 said:
-Newcloud- said:
Yet the new call of duty will be praised for have the same solid gameplay it's had since COD4.


Wrong.  this is a myth and an exageration by this point in the generation. 

Call of Duty 4 - 92 metacritic

Blackops II - 83 metacritic

Don't mistake popularity for critics over hyping it.  CoD4 and MW2 was original and deserved the scores it got.  They have declined since due to stale gameplay.

God of War: Ascension> Black Ops II

in fact.

God of War: Ascension>Modern Warfare 3

Either way, anyone who bashes God of War Ascension when it has the best gameplay the series has ever seen, then turns around and gives the stale, innovation-less series COD anything above a 70 can't be trusted.


You are acting like this is a fact.  I like how you are comparing your opinion with facts though. I also like how you are comparing two completely different genres.  I could easily go out and talk to the 20 million people who own the game and Im sure a lot of them would disagree with you.  Not sure why you are in here bashing CoD in the first place.  If you dont like it so be it, but this isnt the place for the discussion

I simply showed you proof that you was wrong.  God of War is being played out just like call of duty.  We have had how many god of war games in just the last 5 years?  Just like CoD people are getting played out on it.

No, it's a fact that CoD ceased to innovate its gameplay in any kind of significant or creative way since the original Modern Warfare. It is a glorified map update that people adore because of the multiplayer. Nothing more, nothing less. It's also a fact that activision hasn't given ANY thought or care whatsover to the campaign in years. I remember a few of the campaigns being 5-6 hours long lol. Really?! For a $60 retail game? A 6 hour campaign? Unacceptable.

So, know, you didn't prove me wrong in any way. Because Modern Warfare 3 and original Black Ops got glowing reviews and they were stale as ever. God of War is actually innovating and adding new elements to its experience each expansion (including a great multiplayer this year). Those are some more FACTS. And millions of pre-teens love Justin Beiber. Doesn't make his music and his appeal any less saccherine and lame. Popularity does not equal quality. I could care less if you find 10 million idiots who don't mind harking 60 bucks up a year for a map pack expansion for multiplayer.

What's the storyline in Call of Duty again? Don't worry, I'll wait.


Yes let's compare games to the music industry where you are forced to listened to mainstream via radio.

God of War is also a mainstram video game ;)

Anyways you are still basing things around your opinion rather than looking at the whole picture.  And to think reviewers are  reviewing call of duty only on its single player is laughable.  It is being reviewed not only by its single player but its addicting multiplayer that for whatever reason people still can not top besides other games that are on the same standards like Halo and Battlefield.  When you think of the best FPS games Halo, CoD, Battlefield will be in almost every discussion.  However CoD has steadily been getting lower reviews due to stale gameplay which ive mentioned before.  Still the game is addicting and it is why people keep flocking to stores buying it.  God of War is also the top of it's class in hack n slash so dont read that wrong.

God of War has had 4 games in 5 years yet you somehow think that is better?  not only is the gameplay getting stale by this point but it doesnt have an addicting multiplayer like CoD to fall back on.  Then there is the story which from reviews and even users has said it is significantly worst than previous god of war games.  

This by no means says that the gameplay is worst, but there is flaws in the game.  Im going to use Halo 4 as an example.  Most people will say technically that Halo 4 is better than halo 1 but it has lower reviews.  Why because it is no longer original.  Same thing goes to gears of war and Killzone.  Without innovation these games will not recieve a higher score.

You like God of War Ascension and that is great that you do but dont bash other people for having a different opinion than you or liking a different game.

No review of a video game should start with multiplayer. If Call of Duty wants to really just become a multiplayer game then release one big ass game PC style and send in patches every year. They release a $60 retail game EVERY. FREAKING. YEAR. For any reviewer not taking that into consideration when reviewing CoD really shouldn't have a job reviewing video games. Ignoring campaigns is a bad precendent to set in gaming. Online experience is secondary, alternative FEATURE. Not the main attraction. Again, if CoD's business model was just for multiplayer it doesn't require a new disc every year to do that.

Furthermore, I'm not bashing other people (or rather critics) for liking CoD. I'm pointing out the absolutely GLARING hypocrcisy involved in their chastisement of one title to another. You can't claim GoW:A is "more of the same" (because its not. I mean, it's really, really not.) and mark that as a negative and then turn around and give Call of Duty a higher score (because EVERYONE IN THEIR RIGHT MIND KNOWS COD IS ALWAYS MORE OF THE SAME AND NOTHING MORE! lol). It makes you not only a hypocrite. But a horrible "journalist". Take a look at the websites who scored God of War Under an 80 or better yet even under an 85. And see what they gave CoD. It's higher in 90% of the reviews.

Gaming "journalism" is a cess pool. And it has to stop. Stop defending malpractice.

As I said before the reviews has been steadily dcling for call of duy.  You also are still basing your statements around opinions like single player over multiplayer which is simply not true.  Some games are more focused on multiplayer than single player.  For example World of Warcraft, counterstrike, unreal tournament, battlefield etc.  Call of Duty has single player but it is not the main attraction and you are very aware of that. It just sounds like to me that you dont care for multiplayer and have the mentality that they should review things according to what you like most.

Anyways I'm not going to argue this anymore.  I was just showing you that CoD scores has been getting lower and now this is a CoD vs GoW competition which will all come down to opinion  based on genre and single player vs multiplayer




       

Jaywood2010 on 14 March 2013
bananaking21 said:
JayWood2010 said:

Yes let's compare games to the music industry where you are forced to listened to mainstream via radio.

God of War is also a mainstram video game ;)

Anyways you are still basing things around your opinion rather than looking at the whole picture.  And to think reviewers are  reviewing call of duty only on its single player is laughable.  It is being reviewed not only by its single player but its addicting multiplayer that for whatever reason people still can not top besides other games that are on the same standards like Halo and Battlefield.  When you think of the best FPS games Halo, CoD, Battlefield will be in almost every discussion.  However CoD has steadily been getting lower reviews due to stale gameplay which ive mentioned before.  Still the game is addicting and it is why people keep flocking to stores buying it.  God of War is also the top of it's class in hack n slash so dont read that wrong.

God of War has had 4 games in 5 years yet you somehow think that is better?  not only is the gameplay getting stale by this point but it doesnt have an addicting multiplayer like CoD to fall back on.  Then there is the story which from reviews and even users has said it is significantly worst than previous god of war games.  

This by no means says that the gameplay is worst, but there is flaws in the game.  Im going to use Halo 4 as an example.  Most people will say technically that Halo 4 is better than halo 1 but it has lower reviews.  Why because it is no longer original.  Same thing goes to gears of war and Killzone.  Without innovation these games will not recieve a higher score.

You like God of War Ascension and that is great that you do but dont bash other people for having a different opinion than you or liking a different game.


i understand your point, but here is the thing, unlike CoD or halo, god of war ascension does change up the gameplay quiet a bit, its much better than before, a lot of things have changed. also SSM added multiplayer. and lets not kid ourselfs, the multiplayer is pretty innovative. its the first hack and slash game to have a full blown out multiplayer with gameplay that actually is not just good, but great. no hack and slash game did this before and they opened the door wide open for hack and slash online multiplayer. they proofed it can be something special. i really cant comment on the story because im still 4 hours in, but the gameplay is by far the best gameplay in any hack and slash game. i understand reviews points are after all opinions, but a lot of reviews contradict them selfs, they review the game low for being "stale" and "more of the same" and they act like the multiplayer doesnt exist, when the mutliplayer does actually bring something we pretty much didnt see before on this scale or level of quality

I think you are misunderstanding me.  I am not saying anything bad about GoWA.  I was just explaining that similarity problems often causes lower scores.  Halo 4 and Halo Reach are vastly different but they are still similar at the same time.  Same goes for GoW.  It may be different than GoWIII but it is still similar at the same time.




       

bananaking21 on 14 March 2013
JayWood2010 said:
bananaking21 said:
JayWood2010 said:

Yes let's compare games to the music industry where you are forced to listened to mainstream via radio.

God of War is also a mainstram video game ;)

Anyways you are still basing things around your opinion rather than looking at the whole picture.  And to think reviewers are  reviewing call of duty only on its single player is laughable.  It is being reviewed not only by its single player but its addicting multiplayer that for whatever reason people still can not top besides other games that are on the same standards like Halo and Battlefield.  When you think of the best FPS games Halo, CoD, Battlefield will be in almost every discussion.  However CoD has steadily been getting lower reviews due to stale gameplay which ive mentioned before.  Still the game is addicting and it is why people keep flocking to stores buying it.  God of War is also the top of it's class in hack n slash so dont read that wrong.

God of War has had 4 games in 5 years yet you somehow think that is better?  not only is the gameplay getting stale by this point but it doesnt have an addicting multiplayer like CoD to fall back on.  Then there is the story which from reviews and even users has said it is significantly worst than previous god of war games.  

This by no means says that the gameplay is worst, but there is flaws in the game.  Im going to use Halo 4 as an example.  Most people will say technically that Halo 4 is better than halo 1 but it has lower reviews.  Why because it is no longer original.  Same thing goes to gears of war and Killzone.  Without innovation these games will not recieve a higher score.

You like God of War Ascension and that is great that you do but dont bash other people for having a different opinion than you or liking a different game.


i understand your point, but here is the thing, unlike CoD or halo, god of war ascension does change up the gameplay quiet a bit, its much better than before, a lot of things have changed. also SSM added multiplayer. and lets not kid ourselfs, the multiplayer is pretty innovative. its the first hack and slash game to have a full blown out multiplayer with gameplay that actually is not just good, but great. no hack and slash game did this before and they opened the door wide open for hack and slash online multiplayer. they proofed it can be something special. i really cant comment on the story because im still 4 hours in, but the gameplay is by far the best gameplay in any hack and slash game. i understand reviews points are after all opinions, but a lot of reviews contradict them selfs, they review the game low for being "stale" and "more of the same" and they act like the multiplayer doesnt exist, when the mutliplayer does actually bring something we pretty much didnt see before on this scale or level of quality

I think you are misunderstanding me.  I am not saying anything bad about GoWA.  I was just explaining that similarity problems often causes lower scores.  Halo 4 and Halo Reach are vastly different but they are still similar at the same time.  Same goes for GoW.  It may be different than GoWIII but it is still similar at the same time.

lol dude i know you werent saying anything bad about GoWA, but i was explaining that its not really all that similar, i mean the core of the franchise is still there. it would be extremely stupid to just remove the core of what made the previous games so awesome just for the sake of change. what i am trying to say is that they did make enough changes for the series not to feel stale and they did add some great multiplayer as well. 



Jaywood2010 on 14 March 2013
bananaking21 said:
JayWood2010 said:
bananaking21 said:
JayWood2010 said:

Yes let's compare games to the music industry where you are forced to listened to mainstream via radio.

God of War is also a mainstram video game ;)

Anyways you are still basing things around your opinion rather than looking at the whole picture.  And to think reviewers are  reviewing call of duty only on its single player is laughable.  It is being reviewed not only by its single player but its addicting multiplayer that for whatever reason people still can not top besides other games that are on the same standards like Halo and Battlefield.  When you think of the best FPS games Halo, CoD, Battlefield will be in almost every discussion.  However CoD has steadily been getting lower reviews due to stale gameplay which ive mentioned before.  Still the game is addicting and it is why people keep flocking to stores buying it.  God of War is also the top of it's class in hack n slash so dont read that wrong.

God of War has had 4 games in 5 years yet you somehow think that is better?  not only is the gameplay getting stale by this point but it doesnt have an addicting multiplayer like CoD to fall back on.  Then there is the story which from reviews and even users has said it is significantly worst than previous god of war games.  

This by no means says that the gameplay is worst, but there is flaws in the game.  Im going to use Halo 4 as an example.  Most people will say technically that Halo 4 is better than halo 1 but it has lower reviews.  Why because it is no longer original.  Same thing goes to gears of war and Killzone.  Without innovation these games will not recieve a higher score.

You like God of War Ascension and that is great that you do but dont bash other people for having a different opinion than you or liking a different game.


i understand your point, but here is the thing, unlike CoD or halo, god of war ascension does change up the gameplay quiet a bit, its much better than before, a lot of things have changed. also SSM added multiplayer. and lets not kid ourselfs, the multiplayer is pretty innovative. its the first hack and slash game to have a full blown out multiplayer with gameplay that actually is not just good, but great. no hack and slash game did this before and they opened the door wide open for hack and slash online multiplayer. they proofed it can be something special. i really cant comment on the story because im still 4 hours in, but the gameplay is by far the best gameplay in any hack and slash game. i understand reviews points are after all opinions, but a lot of reviews contradict them selfs, they review the game low for being "stale" and "more of the same" and they act like the multiplayer doesnt exist, when the mutliplayer does actually bring something we pretty much didnt see before on this scale or level of quality

I think you are misunderstanding me.  I am not saying anything bad about GoWA.  I was just explaining that similarity problems often causes lower scores.  Halo 4 and Halo Reach are vastly different but they are still similar at the same time.  Same goes for GoW.  It may be different than GoWIII but it is still similar at the same time.

lol dude i know you werent saying anything bad about GoWA, but i was explaining that its not really all that similar, i mean the core of the franchise is still there. it would be extremely stupid to just remove the core of what made the previous games so awesome just for the sake of change. what i am trying to say is that they did make enough changes for the series not to feel stale and they did add some great multiplayer as well. 

When you have had so much of something people grows tired (not tired but more like not wowed) of it no matter how good it is.  

Since 2005 (All with the same style gameplay)

God of War
God of War II
God of War Chains of Olympus
God of War Collection
God of War III
God of War Ghost of Sparta
God of War Origins
God of War Ascension

That is one release of God of War each year.  Even though they technically might improve on aspects it still is similar and will hurt the score, maybe not by a lot but it will.  The main reason this game is being hurt is because of the actual story which is a huge focus on single player focused games.

EDIT:  Also from what Ive understood the gameplay may be good but it also has frustrating things about the game as well whether it being camera angles or difficulty. 






       

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bananaking21 on 14 March 2013
JayWood2010 said:

When you have had so much of something people grows tired (not tired but more like not wowed) of it no matter how good it is.  

Since 2005

God of War
God of War II
God of War Chains of Olympus
God of War Collection
God of War III
God of War Ghost of Sparta
God of War Origins
God of War Ascension

That is one release of God of War each year.  Even though they technically might improve on aspects it still is similar and will hurt the score, maybe not by a lot but it will.  The main reason this game is being hurt is because of the actual story which is a huge focus on single player focused games.


you really cant put in the collection or origins up there since they are games released on the ps3 for people who didnt play the game on the ps2 or dont have a PSP.

and yes i agree with sony releasing quite a bit to much og GoW. but wasnt the last real release about 2 and half years ago with ghost of sparta? seems like a really reasonable to have between game releases. 



Jaywood2010 on 14 March 2013
bananaking21 said:
JayWood2010 said:

When you have had so much of something people grows tired (not tired but more like not wowed) of it no matter how good it is.  

Since 2005

God of War
God of War II
God of War Chains of Olympus
God of War Collection
God of War III
God of War Ghost of Sparta
God of War Origins
God of War Ascension

That is one release of God of War each year.  Even though they technically might improve on aspects it still is similar and will hurt the score, maybe not by a lot but it will.  The main reason this game is being hurt is because of the actual story which is a huge focus on single player focused games.


you really cant put in the collection or origins up there since they are games released on the ps3 for people who didnt play the game on the ps2 or dont have a PSP.

and yes i agree with sony releasing quite a bit to much og GoW. but wasnt the last real release about 2 and half years ago with ghost of sparta? seems like a really reasonable to have between game releases. 


I realize that they are collections or remakes but reviewers still reviews them regardless which means by this point they may be played out on GoW.

As far as main releases they have had 6 in 8 years.  GoW trilogy, Chains of Olympus, Ghost of Sparta, and Ascension.

They sell well and people like them so why not




       

bananaking21 on 14 March 2013
JayWood2010 said:
bananaking21 said:

and yes i agree with sony releasing quite a bit to much og GoW. but wasnt the last real release about 2 and half years ago with ghost of sparta? seems like a really reasonable to have between game releases. 


I realize that they are collections or remakes but reviewers still reviews them regardless which means by this point they may be played out on GoW.

As far as main releases they have had 6 in 8 years.  GoW trilogy, Chains of Olympus, Ghost of Sparta, and Ascension.

They sell well and people like them so why not

yeah i get your point. 

btw did you play the game?



Jaywood2010 on 14 March 2013
bananaking21 said:
JayWood2010 said:
bananaking21 said:

and yes i agree with sony releasing quite a bit to much og GoW. but wasnt the last real release about 2 and half years ago with ghost of sparta? seems like a really reasonable to have between game releases. 


I realize that they are collections or remakes but reviewers still reviews them regardless which means by this point they may be played out on GoW.

As far as main releases they have had 6 in 8 years.  GoW trilogy, Chains of Olympus, Ghost of Sparta, and Ascension.

They sell well and people like them so why not

yeah i get your point. 

btw did you play the game?

No.  I have it on my gamefly list right now so im waiting. I am waiting ever so patiently XD lol  




       

Cooltown on 14 March 2013
JayWood2010 said:


I simply showed you proof that you was wrong.  God of War is being played out just like call of duty.  We have had how many god of war games in just the last 5 years?  Just like CoD people are getting played out on it.


I don't usually login to post replies and I just read threads without responding, but I'm sorry, I had to login for this one. God of War is being played out just like Call of Duty? Are you on drugs?

List of non-compilation based God of War games on PS3:

God of War III
God of War Ascension

List of non-compilation based Call of Duty games on PS3:

Call of Duty 3
Call of Duty: World at War
Call of Duty: Black Ops
Call of Duty: Black Ops 2
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3
+ Endless map pack releases 

Please...you comparing call of duty being played out to God of War being "played out" is just insulting the intelligence of everyone on this forum.

God of War 3 and Ascension took 3 years to make. Call of Duty gets released every year. 

Let's also compare God of War this generation to other big franchises like Gears of War (4 titles), Assassin's Creed (6 titles on PS3) or Uncharted (3 titles on PS3)...somehow again God of War isn't even CLOSE to being played out.  God of War is one of the LEAST played out franchises this generation. Maybe it's just the fact that GoW3's graphics had people talking for years that you're so tired of hearing about it.