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Forums - Gaming - Anybody think 8 gb of GDDR5 is a mistake for PS4

If they released PS5 in 2015, yes. But the PS4 isn't going to be replaced anytime soon. RAM usage will increase over time, so saying something like "pc games uses 3gb right now" doesn't mean anything, cause the PS4 isn't designed for the present only.

Epic had a hard time convincing MS that the 360 needed 512MB, and this pretty much saved the console.



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At launch it is overkill. Even after the second wave of games it will be overkill. In 7 years though it could be the bottleneck. Sony doesn't want a repeat of this gen. I expect EVERY social feature in the 720 to be ported to PS4 now that it has so much extra ram.



It's not that bad, since Microsoft will probably double that amount with the Xbox 720.




walsufnir said:
VGKing said:

Well back when it was using 4GB, only 512MB were allocated to the OS according to rumors. So if we assume everything doubled then right now 7GB are for games and 1GB for OS. Compare that to the next XBox with points to 3GB being used for OS and only 5GB for games. Then there's the fact that it's only using DDR3 while PS4 is using GDDR5. No matter how you look at it, PS4 has the RAM advantage...

by current rumors. I don't see them using 3Gb RAM just for OS.


I agree, 3gb of ram just for the OS means it's a chunkier OS than even Windows Vista and certainly a massive jump over the Xbox 360's 32Mb-48Mb~ OS that it has right now.

Also, the PS4 doesn't have a "Ram advantage". DDR3 is lower latency than GDDR5, whether the DDR3's bandwidth will hold back the Xbox 720's fillrate at 1080P remains to be seen, but even after a couple of years I expect both the Xbox 720 and Playstation 4 to start having it's games run at 720P again, so that bandwidth advantage should mean less.

We also have no idea if the PS4 has a 64bit memory bus or a 128bit memory bus or if the Xbox 360's memory bus is 256bit, DDR3 with the right set-up can be competitive with GDDR5 in terms of memory bandwidth, it's probably something we won't know 100% untill all the cards have fallen into place.




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JoeTheBro said:
At launch it is overkill. Even after the second wave of games it will be overkill. In 7 years though it could be the bottleneck. Sony doesn't want a repeat of this gen. I expect EVERY social feature in the 720 to be ported to PS4 now that it has so much extra ram.

The GPU doesn't even have enough power to utilize 8 GB.



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luisvideogames said:
It's not that bad, since Microsoft will probably double that amount with the Xbox 720.

Double that amount in GDDR5 or GDDR3? There's a difference.



Pemalite said:

I agree, 3gb of ram just for the OS means it's a chunkier OS than even Windows Vista and certainly a massive jump over the Xbox 360's 32Mb-48Mb~ OS that it has right now.

Also, the PS4 doesn't have a "Ram advantage". DDR3 is lower latency than GDDR5, whether the DDR3's bandwidth will hold back the Xbox 720's fillrate at 1080P remains to be seen, but even after a couple of years I expect both the Xbox 720 and Playstation 4 to start having it's games run at 720P again, so that bandwidth advantage should mean less.

We also have no idea if the PS4 has a 64bit memory bus or a 128bit memory bus or if the Xbox 360's memory bus is 256bit, DDR3 with the right set-up can be competitive with GDDR5 in terms of memory bandwidth, it's probably something we won't know 100% untill all the cards have fallen into place.

For 170GB/s? 256bits.



GamersAreTrash said:

The GPU doesn't even have enough power to utilize 8 GB.

8GB is not to GPU alone... it is to all the system (CPU, CPU, etc)... anyway there is no relation in GPU power and memory size.



GamersAreTrash said:
JoeTheBro said:
At launch it is overkill. Even after the second wave of games it will be overkill. In 7 years though it could be the bottleneck. Sony doesn't want a repeat of this gen. I expect EVERY social feature in the 720 to be ported to PS4 now that it has so much extra ram.

The GPU doesn't even have enough power to utilize 8 GB.


This is shared memory... I thought you knew that?



luisvideogames said:
It's not that bad, since Microsoft will probably double that amount with the Xbox 720.

I hope not, that has overkill written all over it.