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Telling that the Meta average for games in that list that aren't Halo or Forza is 70.



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That's exactly why the ps3 has been better than the 360 in the past 5 years or so. I love Halo, but sometimes I want to play something different, something new.



Mr Puggsly said:
Deyon said:
sales2099 said:
Deyon said:

I'll take new crappy games i might enjoy over MILKED franchises anytime.

Milked doesnt mean lacking quality, not in Halo/Forzas case anyways.

If thats what gamers want, and quality is up there, then milk away! This shows me that MS, having limited resources, at least gives their fans what they want. Sony......its like taking blind shots in the dark, hoping they land a hit.

It's better than releasing crappy spin offs of there big games.

If Microsoft keeps whoring out Halo and Forza like that just for the money, i expect both of those IP's to die soon.

IPs often die because the market changes, competition, or the series just got bad. I don't think milking has ever killed an IP.

Name any IP that you genuinely feel went down hill in sales because of milking.

Guitar Hero.



KingHades said:
Aldro said:
KingHades said:
JayWood2010 said:
Aldro said:
JayWood2010 said:
KingHades said:
Aldro said:
kain_kusanagi said:
KingHades said:
Fable 3 isn't even exclusive. Why is it there?
Halo Combat evolved? HD versions of the originals? Really? This is such a joke thread no organization whatsoever.


How many Fable games have you played on PS3 or Wii?

Halo CE Anniversary is a lot more than an HD re-release like the Ico collection. Yes it is the same game, but it has a completely new graphical engine on top that makes it look like a modern game. Most HD collections are nothing more than the same game upscaled in HD and your lucky to get new textures. Halo Anniversary actualy looks better than Halo Reach and Halo Reach looks great. Not as amazing as Halo 4, but what does really?

He's refering to the PC which I agree with. But this isn't really about exclusives, it's about 1st party and.. that game is one if I am not mistaking xD

Then Crackdown 2 wouldn't be there if this were the case. This should be about exclusives and exclusives only.

Oh crackdown isnt first party?  Ok, ill just rplace it, no big deal

:P Hope you're joking

Of course im joking lol  It is a first party title owned my MSFT.  But if he wanted me to replace it next in line is a 92 rated game so he needs to hush up because it is only going to hurt his case lol


Um Crackdown isn't owned by Microsoft. That's like saying Nintendo own's Bayonetta or Microsoft owned Mass Effect and BioShock.

"What Kim did clarify is that Microsoft owns the Crackdown IP and is free to pursue development of a sequel with a new studio."

Source = http://www.joystiq.com/2008/02/08/dice-08-microsoft-owns-crackdown-ip-sequel-an-option/

Also why would you want to help MS get a better score by removing their worst? xD

Ok then so if Crackdown is there then he should put Journey for PS3. Since Journey is NOT only a downloadable title since I can get it at retail and it IS a core game.

While Sony owns Journey, the developers are not owned by Sony.



Deyon said:

All of them are sequels

At least Sony tries to mix things up and bring in new fresh exclusives rather than milking the crap out of their big games.

Really? Releasing a major game in a franchise every 2 years is what counts a "milking the crap out of" now?



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SecondWar said:
Deyon said:

All of them are sequels

At least Sony tries to mix things up and bring in new fresh exclusives rather than milking the crap out of their big games.

Really? Releasing a major game in a franchise every 2 years is what counts a "milking the crap out of" now?

With all due respect, when that is all you release: Yeah its pretty bad. I am refering to the entire first party here and not taking a jab at one particular developer. The fact that the last 8 games go 3 years back is troubling.



Nice excuse for a number of users to troll in here for free as usual I see.



pezus said:

Excuse me? And here I thought you had an unreleased PS3 game on that list, the biggest game no less.

What game?



pezus said:
Can we just stop the attacks and look at this reasonably?

The selection bias was huge in the PS thread in the beginning. It's less now, but he still needs to exchange 1 game for another. He decided that Move/Kinect don't matter either, which is kind of unfair given MS' recent position. List Kinect and Move games and you would see a better outcome for MS in terms of number of releases but worse in terms of average score.

Secondly, looking at 3 years for MS and 1 year for Sony and deducing from that that Sony don't make great games. WTH?! Do you even read what you write? 3 years of games from MS have numerous 80+ rated games and 3 years for Sony have even MORE 80+ rated games. I saw some saying "Quality over quantity", but I say "Why not both"? That is Sony's PS3. It only does everything.

It really shows that MS in a way abandoned the core gamer when the core titles (8 of them) are expanded over 3 freaking years.



pezus said:
Can we just stop the attacks and look at this reasonably?

The selection bias was huge in the PS thread in the beginning. It's less now, but he still needs to exchange 1 game for another. He decided that Move/Kinect don't matter either, which is kind of unfair given MS' recent position. List Kinect and Move games and you would see a better outcome for MS in terms of number of releases but worse in terms of average score.

Secondly, looking at 3 years for MS and 1 year for Sony and deducing from that that Sony don't make great games. WTH?! Do you even read what you write? 3 years of games from MS have numerous 80+ rated games and 3 years for Sony have even MORE 80+ rated games. I saw some saying "Quality over quantity", but I say "Why not both"? That is Sony's PS3. It only does everything.


this is very simple. I included core games and you guys have went beyond pissing me off by this point.  I was very generous to even include Fable the Journey.  I did not want to make a MSFT one but i did so you all can complain some more.  Here I have Deyon posting on my wall and over a 100+ comments pissed because nobody can admit one thing.  Yes sony has been messing up and so has MSFT.  Stop defending them