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Deyon said:
sales2099 said:

Metacritic takes an average of them all so it weeds out the troll reviews to a degree, while also putting a heavier emphasis on major review sites/publications. I thought this was common sense but ok.

Saying the review system is broken is a sore losers excuse. Deal with it. Also the fact that all 3 games above didn't score the way their predessors did, id say its not the reviewers fault. The internet is pro Sony....are you new to the gaming internet?

The sales of the game says that the people who bought it are satisfied with it.

lol ok. Not debating that. Love the role reversal here. With every PS3 IP, its all about reviews.....GT is the only one where the fans instinctively run to the sales card.

Was just saying that the GT games this gen could have been better reviewed, sorry if that hit a nerve.



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sales2099 said:
cheese_man said:
sales2099 said:
cheese_man said:
sales2099 said:
cheese_man said:
What the fuck? GT5 prologue, GT PSP, GT5 sold 15-20 mil between them. They've done great this gen, and their platform is 1/2 the size of last gen.

So they got the sales down nicely, but the reviews leave something to be desired in them all :P


Thinks game reviews aren't broken and uses emoticons on forums. Are you new to the internet?

Metacritic takes an average of them all so it weeds out the troll reviews to a degree, while also putting a heavier emphasis on major review sites/publications. I thought this was common sense but ok.

Saying the review system is broken is a sore losers excuse. Deal with it. Also the fact that all 3 games above didn't score the way their predessors did, id say its not the reviewers fault. The internet is pro Sony....are you new to the gaming internet?

Just to respond to what I've bolded in order:


You mean the ones who get payed for high scores or receive contracts which disallow them from featuring many things in their reviews such as bugs.

The same could be said that using reviews can be a sore loser excuse for losing in sales?

What? You mean Vgchartz is.

Reviewer bias works both ways. But that said, the whole reviewing body can't be bribed at once...not when theres 70+ reviews. Ridiculous comment.

This isnt about sales. This is about reviews....you clever guy trying to sidestep lol


My OP was about sales. You are the one who side stepped into reviews. Do you even read what you say?



cheese_man said:
sales2099 said:
cheese_man said:
sales2099 said:
cheese_man said:
What the fuck? GT5 prologue, GT PSP, GT5 sold 15-20 mil between them. They've done great this gen, and their platform is 1/2 the size of last gen.

So they got the sales down nicely, but the reviews leave something to be desired in them all :P


Thinks game reviews aren't broken and uses emoticons on forums. Are you new to the internet?

Metacritic takes an average of them all so it weeds out the troll reviews to a degree, while also putting a heavier emphasis on major review sites/publications. I thought this was common sense but ok.

Saying the review system is broken is a sore losers excuse. Deal with it. Also the fact that all 3 games above didn't score the way their predessors did, id say its not the reviewers fault. The internet is pro Sony....are you new to the gaming internet?

Just to respond to what I've bolded in order:


You mean the ones who get payed for high scores or receive contracts which disallow them from featuring many things in their reviews such as bugs.

 

The same could be said that using reviews can be a sore loser excuse for losing in sales?

 

What? You mean Vgchartz is.

No offense but Sales is right in what he is saying.  The sales have been good but the games themselves have had problems and that is not rigged in anyway.  Ill take GT5 for example which I believe has an 83 on metacritic.  It was really cool that they put some premium cars in the game that was relistic on the inside but they had 100s and 100s of copy and paste cars from GT4.  The trees was like cardboard and the crowd as well.  It also has no damage on cars like forza or customization.  Forza raised the bar in my opinion this gen with car simulators.  It added more gameplay elements and while it doesnt sell as well as GT by  many people who have played both will say Forza is the better game which the reviews reflect that.  A game that takes 5-6 years to make better be very good. If Turn 10 can make a better game in 2 years imagine with 6 years.




       

Didnt polyphony make the PSP Gran turismo aswell in those years? They might also be working on a Vita one. They also make concept software for car manufacturers and car expo's. They dont do videogames only, and Gran turismo is still a beast in sales, so it might take a while but its worth the wait somehow (personally i grew bored of the series by GT3 though).

For me the biggest shocker is they havent released any more Ape escape installments. Thats a pretty fun game.



cheese_man said:
sales2099 said:
cheese_man said:
sales2099 said:
cheese_man said:
sales2099 said:
cheese_man said:
What the fuck? GT5 prologue, GT PSP, GT5 sold 15-20 mil between them. They've done great this gen, and their platform is 1/2 the size of last gen.

So they got the sales down nicely, but the reviews leave something to be desired in them all :P


Thinks game reviews aren't broken and uses emoticons on forums. Are you new to the internet?

Metacritic takes an average of them all so it weeds out the troll reviews to a degree, while also putting a heavier emphasis on major review sites/publications. I thought this was common sense but ok.

Saying the review system is broken is a sore losers excuse. Deal with it. Also the fact that all 3 games above didn't score the way their predessors did, id say its not the reviewers fault. The internet is pro Sony....are you new to the gaming internet?

Just to respond to what I've bolded in order:


You mean the ones who get payed for high scores or receive contracts which disallow them from featuring many things in their reviews such as bugs.

The same could be said that using reviews can be a sore loser excuse for losing in sales?

What? You mean Vgchartz is.

Reviewer bias works both ways. But that said, the whole reviewing body can't be bribed at once...not when theres 70+ reviews. Ridiculous comment.

This isnt about sales. This is about reviews....you clever guy trying to sidestep lol


My OP was about sales. You are the one who side stepped into reviews. Do you even read what you say?

Lol "your" OP. Im talking the thread OP....which talked developement cycles. Quality control is part of the developement cycle. Seems your the one going off track.



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sales2099 said:
Deyon said:

The sales of the game says that the people who bought it are satisfied with it.

lol ok. Not debating that. Love the role reversal here. With every PS3 IP, its all about reviews.....GT is the only one where the fans instinctively run to the sales card. Was just saying that the GT games this gen could have been better reviewed, sorry if that hit a nerve.

Not at all, it didn't hit any nerve. i hate the game tbh.

Reviews are a one mans opinion some of them gave it a 10/10 some of them gave it an 8/10. They didn't attack the gameplay (the most important) they praised it.

The only negative thing they said is that some of the cars are updated from GT4.

May i ask you, how many times have you played a game that got a 70+%-80+% on metacritic and you found it better than a 90% reviewed game? i have, A LOT!



sales2099 said:
cheese_man said:
sales2099 said:
cheese_man said:
sales2099 said:
cheese_man said:
sales2099 said:
cheese_man said:
What the fuck? GT5 prologue, GT PSP, GT5 sold 15-20 mil between them. They've done great this gen, and their platform is 1/2 the size of last gen.

So they got the sales down nicely, but the reviews leave something to be desired in them all :P


Thinks game reviews aren't broken and uses emoticons on forums. Are you new to the internet?

Metacritic takes an average of them all so it weeds out the troll reviews to a degree, while also putting a heavier emphasis on major review sites/publications. I thought this was common sense but ok.

Saying the review system is broken is a sore losers excuse. Deal with it. Also the fact that all 3 games above didn't score the way their predessors did, id say its not the reviewers fault. The internet is pro Sony....are you new to the gaming internet?

Just to respond to what I've bolded in order:


You mean the ones who get payed for high scores or receive contracts which disallow them from featuring many things in their reviews such as bugs.

The same could be said that using reviews can be a sore loser excuse for losing in sales?

What? You mean Vgchartz is.

Reviewer bias works both ways. But that said, the whole reviewing body can't be bribed at once...not when theres 70+ reviews. Ridiculous comment.

This isnt about sales. This is about reviews....you clever guy trying to sidestep lol


My OP was about sales. You are the one who side stepped into reviews. Do you even read what you say?

Lol "your" OP. Im talking the thread OP....which talked developement cycles. Quality control is part of the developement cycle. Seems your the one going off track.


The thread OP has nothing to do with reviews. Its about them releasing only one game (which was false anyway), and implying that they failed this gen, I brought up sales to counter his argument.

 

You just jumped on my comment with an irrelevant fanboy remark in an attempt to discredit their success.



LOL you act as if Yoshida was making GT5 and purposely delayed it. It wasn't his fault so calm yourself.



sales2099 said:
cheese_man said:
sales2099 said:
cheese_man said:
sales2099 said:
cheese_man said:
What the fuck? GT5 prologue, GT PSP, GT5 sold 15-20 mil between them. They've done great this gen, and their platform is 1/2 the size of last gen.

So they got the sales down nicely, but the reviews leave something to be desired in them all :P


Thinks game reviews aren't broken and uses emoticons on forums. Are you new to the internet?

Metacritic takes an average of them all so it weeds out the troll reviews to a degree, while also putting a heavier emphasis on major review sites/publications. I thought this was common sense but ok.

Saying the review system is broken is a sore losers excuse. Deal with it. Also the fact that all 3 games above didn't score the way their predessors did, id say its not the reviewers fault. The internet is pro Sony....are you new to the gaming internet?

Just to respond to what I've bolded in order:


You mean the ones who get payed for high scores or receive contracts which disallow them from featuring many things in their reviews such as bugs.

The same could be said that using reviews can be a sore loser excuse for losing in sales?

What? You mean Vgchartz is.

Reviewer bias works both ways and effects all consoles. But that said, the whole reviewing body can't be bribed at once...not when theres 70+ reviews. Ridiculous comment.

This isnt about sales. This is about reviews....you clever guy trying to sidestep lol

Lol the internet is pro-Sony. You are so delusional it's not even funny anymore. At first your comments were entertaining, now I just question your sanity. Calm yourself with this whole "PS religion" crap because it's getting ridiculous.



cheese_man said:
What the fuck? GT5 prologue, GT PSP, GT5 sold 15-20 mil between them. They've done great this gen, and their platform is 1/2 the size of last gen.

Was speechless to discover that a paid demo had sold almost 5M.

 

OT:  Yoshida may have done a poor job with the Japanese studios. But his work with the western studios was great.   SM,ND and MM have become very productive studios.