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think-man on 13 February 2013

Oh yay......More Kinect....



 

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Gribble on 13 February 2013
VGKing said:
fordy said:
VGKing said:

Those are all gimmicks. The original Kinect already offers much of that functionality. 

Kinect 2.0 is just that, Kinect 2.0. A better version of the Kinect you already have. Now, if you loved the Kinect, you'll probably love Kinect 2.0. If you didn't like the first one, you won't like the new one either. 


By that reasoning, a hardware sequel to anything should only sell equal or less than it's predecessor...

Guess that would make the PS2 or Wii numbers fabricated, huh?

I'm sure Kinect 2.0 will sell 1 for every XBox 720 sold, it is force bundled after all.

I wonder if MS will actually quote that statistic?



Turkish on 13 February 2013

I hope you don't need Kinect for the console to function, even if the specs sound promising, I wouldn't want a non working console without a peripheral.



thranx on 13 February 2013
superchunk said:
A lot seemed plausible until the full install games... wow that would ruin the experience for everyone.

You'd be severely limited to the number of games you could just pick up and play ... I mean how big is an average game in HD now and how big will they become considering all three companies are using bluray?

Interesting it true... have to really see it in real usage to see how well it works. Would also mean a lot more digital push then if people effectively don't need the disc. Personally, I like that. One less reason to get up off my ass.. why would I want to change game discs?


they mentioned the ability to play while installing.



superchunk on 13 February 2013
thranx said:
superchunk said:
A lot seemed plausible until the full install games... wow that would ruin the experience for everyone.

You'd be severely limited to the number of games you could just pick up and play ... I mean how big is an average game in HD now and how big will they become considering all three companies are using bluray?

Interesting it true... have to really see it in real usage to see how well it works. Would also mean a lot more digital push then if people effectively don't need the disc. Personally, I like that. One less reason to get up off my ass.. why would I want to change game discs?


they mentioned the ability to play while installing.

Because that would have no impact on the overall performance.



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Adinnieken on 13 February 2013
superchunk said:
thranx said:
superchunk said:
A lot seemed plausible until the full install games... wow that would ruin the experience for everyone.

You'd be severely limited to the number of games you could just pick up and play ... I mean how big is an average game in HD now and how big will they become considering all three companies are using bluray?

Interesting it true... have to really see it in real usage to see how well it works. Would also mean a lot more digital push then if people effectively don't need the disc. Personally, I like that. One less reason to get up off my ass.. why would I want to change game discs?


they mentioned the ability to play while installing.

Because that would have no impact on the overall performance.

Well, if you read the patents you'd be aware of a patent that specifically deals with this very type of thing.  Running one "application" while another runs without negatively impacting performance.

But you're good at reading rumor...not patents...I forgot that.  



superchunk on 13 February 2013
Adinnieken said:
superchunk said:
thranx said:
superchunk said:
A lot seemed plausible until the full install games... wow that would ruin the experience for everyone.

You'd be severely limited to the number of games you could just pick up and play ... I mean how big is an average game in HD now and how big will they become considering all three companies are using bluray?

Interesting it true... have to really see it in real usage to see how well it works. Would also mean a lot more digital push then if people effectively don't need the disc. Personally, I like that. One less reason to get up off my ass.. why would I want to change game discs?


they mentioned the ability to play while installing.

Because that would have no impact on the overall performance.

Well, if you read the patents you'd be aware of a patent that specifically deals with this very type of thing.  Running one "application" while another runs without negatively impacting performance.

But you're good at reading rumor...not patents...I forgot that.  

That's an impossibility considering the game will be running on the same HDD that it is currently being installed from. However, I did say that I'd "...have to really see it in real usage to see how well it works". But, I'm going to go with the idea that it will affect performance during installation.



sales2099 on 13 February 2013
VGKing said:
fordy said:
VGKing said:

Those are all gimmicks. The original Kinect already offers much of that functionality. 

Kinect 2.0 is just that, Kinect 2.0. A better version of the Kinect you already have. Now, if you loved the Kinect, you'll probably love Kinect 2.0. If you didn't like the first one, you won't like the new one either. 


By that reasoning, a hardware sequel to anything should only sell equal or less than it's predecessor...

Guess that would make the PS2 or Wii numbers fabricated, huh?

I'm sure Kinect 2.0 will sell 1 for every XBox 720 sold, it is force bundled after all.

Ok...we get it. You dont like the kinect rumor.....can you stop trolling a rumor? I would report you but I am not sensitive like some people lol

If anything, its used as a effortless media controller with its gestures and voice commands, especially with finding exactly what you want in the marketplace. Video chat is available too.Stop thinking kinect as a games peripheral first, its meant to further the media hub agenda first

As for games, there is the illumation thingy with the room, which looks cool. Otherwise, who cares if its needed to be plugged in for the console to work.....just plug it in and be quiet about it.



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

Adinnieken on 13 February 2013
superchunk said:
Adinnieken said:
superchunk said:
thranx said:
superchunk said:
A lot seemed plausible until the full install games... wow that would ruin the experience for everyone.

You'd be severely limited to the number of games you could just pick up and play ... I mean how big is an average game in HD now and how big will they become considering all three companies are using bluray?

Interesting it true... have to really see it in real usage to see how well it works. Would also mean a lot more digital push then if people effectively don't need the disc. Personally, I like that. One less reason to get up off my ass.. why would I want to change game discs?


they mentioned the ability to play while installing.

Because that would have no impact on the overall performance.

Well, if you read the patents you'd be aware of a patent that specifically deals with this very type of thing.  Running one "application" while another runs without negatively impacting performance.

But you're good at reading rumor...not patents...I forgot that.  

That's an impossibility considering the game will be running on the same HDD that it is currently being installed from. However, I did say that I'd "...have to really see it in real usage to see how well it works". But, I'm going to go with the idea that it will affect performance during installation.

From what I read, there is 50GB of Flash Memory involved.  So in much the same way a hybrid HDD works, data would be streamed from the media, to the flash memory, then streamed to the HDD.  Since the application (game) has to read the ODD, the console can, during the same read process, copy the content to the flash memory, than at a later point write it too the HDD.  It requires the data being optimized, so that reads are quick and it requires that the application (game) be designed in such a way that the content necessary for the game to be initially played is of a reasonable size. 

A lot of current generation games use on-the-fly data reads with little to no impact on the game being played.



superchunk on 13 February 2013
Adinnieken said:

From what I read, there is 50GB of Flash Memory involved.  So in much the same way a hybrid HDD works, data would be streamed from the media, to the flash memory, then streamed to the HDD.  Since the application (game) has to read the ODD, the console can, during the same read process, copy the content to the flash memory, than at a later point write it too the HDD.  It requires the data being optimized, so that reads are quick and it requires that the application (game) be designed in such a way that the content necessary for the game to be initially played is of a reasonable size. 

A lot of current generation games use on-the-fly data reads with little to no impact on the game being played.

Sounds interesting. However, none of the rumors so far have said anything about any GB of flash memory. Gonna be an interesting next few weeks/month.