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End Religion as we know it.

Yes, Why didnt anyone think of this before 19 43.18%
 
No, I love praying 19 43.18%
 
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dsgrue3 on 11 February 2013
nightsurge said:
Why don't we just ban all stupid people? They are the real problem it seems.

I could get behind this.



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sales2099 on 11 February 2013
baph7667 said:
sales2099 said:
baph7667 said:
sales2099 said:
baph7667 said:
sales2099 said:
Why do ALL religions have to be punished? This isn't mthe Crusades....Christianity is peaceful nowadays. In fact the only religion that is responsible for most religious related deaths is Islam nowadays.


I wonder what Religious Group has been most instrumental in promoting America's ongoing War on Terror and Islamophobia.  Oh, that's right Crusading Christians.

Fighting Terrorism is seen as negative in your eyes? Combating Islamic teachings of female unequality, lack of free speech, and combining Church and state?


Ok........


No Weapons of Mass Destruction were found in Iraq.  Osama Bin Laden is dead so there should be no more reason to continue the War in Afghanistan.

How staunchly do you cry out against the inequalities in our own country like gays not having the right to get married, women still having to fight to have the final say so over their own bodies, or the fact that 1% of the population controls a vastly disproportionate amount of the wealth?

Every time a Tea Partier says they want to put God back in everything they're denying the free speech of others, and they only voted for the GOP Crop of Senators in 2010 and for Romney in 2012 because they wanted to combine Church and State.

Iran has a questionable nuclear program and Al Queida exists with or without Osama. Try again.

Islamic followers KILL their gay people in the middle east. Some Islamic women are chipped so their husbands can track them. Mostly though, they can't vote, pray in the back of the mosques, and cant even dress what they want. Oil barrens also are the 1% in the Missle East (people paid billions for their land with oil reserves)

Please, continue.

 

Yeah, Iran has a questionable nuclear program because it's not known to exist.  And even if it does the Istaelis have over 600 nuclear missles.  Al Qaida is just a CIA database of Radical Muslims that the CIA wants to replace with other Radical Muslims.

Christian Cultists kill Gay People in America and Abortion Clinic Doctors.  Christians believe women are supposed to be subsevient to their husbands.  A lot of them still believe women shouldn't be allowed to vote or speak in church.  They don't believe women should be allowed to dress as they want or have any say so over their own bodies.

If Romney had become President and the GOP had won control over both Houses of Congress, then many people really would have seen how disastrous a Christian Theocracy can be in a major country if they've forgotten since the 1940s.

Well your first paragraph is just nonsense. Hows that tin foil hat? Israel has them for protection...since its literally surrounded by countries that want to wipe it off the face of the Earth. Guess what religion is dominant in said countries?....

Christian Cultists? Lol now your talking minorities, compared to common practices that I was referring to. Christians do not believe that, at least its not universal. Double income families in developed worlds is the morm now. I sure hold that belief that a women is her own person. Again, nothing compared to womens rights in the ME. Your talking South United States Christianity, but even that is not as prominent. Christianity is more progressive then you are willing to believe.

Your last paragraph is pure guesswork, and it didnt happen. It astounds me how Christianity is still shit on when it is by far not the most dangerous religion.

Most dominant =/ most dangerous



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baph7667 on 11 February 2013
sales2099 said:
baph7667 said:
sales2099 said:
baph7667 said:
sales2099 said:
baph7667 said:
sales2099 said:
Why do ALL religions have to be punished? This isn't mthe Crusades....Christianity is peaceful nowadays. In fact the only religion that is responsible for most religious related deaths is Islam nowadays.


I wonder what Religious Group has been most instrumental in promoting America's ongoing War on Terror and Islamophobia.  Oh, that's right Crusading Christians.

Fighting Terrorism is seen as negative in your eyes? Combating Islamic teachings of female unequality, lack of free speech, and combining Church and state?


Ok........


No Weapons of Mass Destruction were found in Iraq.  Osama Bin Laden is dead so there should be no more reason to continue the War in Afghanistan.

How staunchly do you cry out against the inequalities in our own country like gays not having the right to get married, women still having to fight to have the final say so over their own bodies, or the fact that 1% of the population controls a vastly disproportionate amount of the wealth?

Every time a Tea Partier says they want to put God back in everything they're denying the free speech of others, and they only voted for the GOP Crop of Senators in 2010 and for Romney in 2012 because they wanted to combine Church and State.

Iran has a questionable nuclear program and Al Queida exists with or without Osama. Try again.

Islamic followers KILL their gay people in the middle east. Some Islamic women are chipped so their husbands can track them. Mostly though, they can't vote, pray in the back of the mosques, and cant even dress what they want. Oil barrens also are the 1% in the Missle East (people paid billions for their land with oil reserves)

Please, continue.

 

Yeah, Iran has a questionable nuclear program because it's not known to exist.  And even if it does the Istaelis have over 600 nuclear missles.  Al Qaida is just a CIA database of Radical Muslims that the CIA wants to replace with other Radical Muslims.

Christian Cultists kill Gay People in America and Abortion Clinic Doctors.  Christians believe women are supposed to be subsevient to their husbands.  A lot of them still believe women shouldn't be allowed to vote or speak in church.  They don't believe women should be allowed to dress as they want or have any say so over their own bodies.

If Romney had become President and the GOP had won control over both Houses of Congress, then many people really would have seen how disastrous a Christian Theocracy can be in a major country if they've forgotten since the 1940s.

Well your first paragraph is just nonsense. Hows that tin foil hat? Israel has them for protection...since its literally surrounded by countries that want to wipe it off the face of the Earth. Guess what religion is dominant in said countries?....

Christian Cultists? Lol now your talking minorities, compared to common practices that I was referring to. Christians do not believe that, at least its not universal. Double income families in developed worlds is the morm now. I sure hold that belief that a women is her own person. Again, nothing compared to womens rights in the ME. Your talking South United States Christianity, but even that is not as prominent. Christianity is more progressive then you are willing to believe.

Your last paragraph is pure guesswork, and it didnt happen. It astounds me how Christianity is still shit on when it is by far not the most dangerous religion.

Most dominant =/ most dangerous


On my first paragraph:  Funny how it's Israel always encroaching on other people's lands and using the fact that people felt sorry for them after World War II and Christianity's hope for an Apocalyptic End of the World to do so.  Nothing tin foil about that.  Israel's been wanting to make a first strike against Iran for a long time.  Also despite warmongering, Consevative Chickenhawk propaganda the leader of Iran never said anything about blowing Israel off the map.  What he said was Israel needs a regime change.

Actually in America the vast majority of Christians are Christian Cultists because 70% of them are Fundamentalists.  The difference between Cults and Religions are usually defined by the number of followers each group has, but I use a different definition.  I consider anyone that belongs to a group that's core principles and beliefs have been definitely disproven as have all of the notions of religionists since the advent of the Scientific Revolution to be Cultists  (I guess I would still have to count the Liberal 30% in that grouping though though they don't really tend to cause problems).

Since it became the Official Religion of Rome under Constantine to the kilns of Auschwitz to the Massacres in Rwanda Christianity has compiled a death toll far greater than anything else that humans have ever come up with  (   http://www.truthbeknown.com/victims.htm   )  . 



sales2099 on 11 February 2013
baph7667 said:
sales2099 said:
baph7667 said:
sales2099 said:
baph7667 said:
sales2099 said:
baph7667 said:
sales2099 said:
Why do ALL religions have to be punished? This isn't mthe Crusades....Christianity is peaceful nowadays. In fact the only religion that is responsible for most religious related deaths is Islam nowadays.


I wonder what Religious Group has been most instrumental in promoting America's ongoing War on Terror and Islamophobia.  Oh, that's right Crusading Christians.

Fighting Terrorism is seen as negative in your eyes? Combating Islamic teachings of female unequality, lack of free speech, and combining Church and state?


Ok........


No Weapons of Mass Destruction were found in Iraq.  Osama Bin Laden is dead so there should be no more reason to continue the War in Afghanistan.

How staunchly do you cry out against the inequalities in our own country like gays not having the right to get married, women still having to fight to have the final say so over their own bodies, or the fact that 1% of the population controls a vastly disproportionate amount of the wealth?

Every time a Tea Partier says they want to put God back in everything they're denying the free speech of others, and they only voted for the GOP Crop of Senators in 2010 and for Romney in 2012 because they wanted to combine Church and State.

Iran has a questionable nuclear program and Al Queida exists with or without Osama. Try again.

Islamic followers KILL their gay people in the middle east. Some Islamic women are chipped so their husbands can track them. Mostly though, they can't vote, pray in the back of the mosques, and cant even dress what they want. Oil barrens also are the 1% in the Missle East (people paid billions for their land with oil reserves)

Please, continue.

 

Yeah, Iran has a questionable nuclear program because it's not known to exist.  And even if it does the Istaelis have over 600 nuclear missles.  Al Qaida is just a CIA database of Radical Muslims that the CIA wants to replace with other Radical Muslims.

Christian Cultists kill Gay People in America and Abortion Clinic Doctors.  Christians believe women are supposed to be subsevient to their husbands.  A lot of them still believe women shouldn't be allowed to vote or speak in church.  They don't believe women should be allowed to dress as they want or have any say so over their own bodies.

If Romney had become President and the GOP had won control over both Houses of Congress, then many people really would have seen how disastrous a Christian Theocracy can be in a major country if they've forgotten since the 1940s.

Well your first paragraph is just nonsense. Hows that tin foil hat? Israel has them for protection...since its literally surrounded by countries that want to wipe it off the face of the Earth. Guess what religion is dominant in said countries?....

Christian Cultists? Lol now your talking minorities, compared to common practices that I was referring to. Christians do not believe that, at least its not universal. Double income families in developed worlds is the morm now. I sure hold that belief that a women is her own person. Again, nothing compared to womens rights in the ME. Your talking South United States Christianity, but even that is not as prominent. Christianity is more progressive then you are willing to believe.

Your last paragraph is pure guesswork, and it didnt happen. It astounds me how Christianity is still shit on when it is by far not the most dangerous religion.

Most dominant =/ most dangerous


On my first paragraph:  Funny how it's Israel always encroaching on other people's lands and using the fact that people felt sorry for them after World War II and Christianity's hope for an Apocalyptic End of the World to do so.  Nothing tin foil about that.  Israel's been wanting to make a first strike against Iran for a long time.  Also despite warmongering, Consevative Chickenhawk propaganda the leader of Iran never said anything about blowing Israel off the map.  What he said was Israel needs a regime change.

Actually in America the vast majority of Christians are Christian Cultists because 70% of them are Fundamentalists.  The difference between Cults and Religions are usually defined by the number of followers each group has, but I use a different definition.  I consider anyone that belongs to a group that's core principles and beliefs have been definitely disproven as have all of the notions of religionists since the advent of the Scientific Revolution to be Cultists  (I guess I would still have to count the Liberal 30% in that grouping though though they don't really tend to cause problems).

Since it became the Official Religion of Rome under Constantine to the kilns of Auschwitz Christianity has compiled a death toll far greater than anything else that humans have ever come up with  (   http://www.truthbeknown.com/victims.htm   )  . 

I don't understand this obsession with land. Can't Palestine just give Israel Jeruselem and its surrounding burroughs and leave it alone. You don't have to looks hard to find political comments threatening to destroy Israel.

The vast majority of Christians are not cultists....what an absurd thing to say. Its catholicism by the way, and its one of the more progressive branches of Christianity. The core beliefs and principles are to be a good person and lead a god life.......how is that disproven? lol.

Christainity had its ultra violent times in history, but now in modern times Islam takes the crown. I don;t know why your defending that religion and harping on the little things with Christainity (little by comparison).



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baph7667 on 11 February 2013
sales2099 said:
baph7667 said:
sales2099 said:
baph7667 said:
sales2099 said:
baph7667 said:
sales2099 said:
baph7667 said:
sales2099 said:
Why do ALL religions have to be punished? This isn't mthe Crusades....Christianity is peaceful nowadays. In fact the only religion that is responsible for most religious related deaths is Islam nowadays.


I wonder what Religious Group has been most instrumental in promoting America's ongoing War on Terror and Islamophobia.  Oh, that's right Crusading Christians.

Fighting Terrorism is seen as negative in your eyes? Combating Islamic teachings of female unequality, lack of free speech, and combining Church and state?


Ok........


No Weapons of Mass Destruction were found in Iraq.  Osama Bin Laden is dead so there should be no more reason to continue the War in Afghanistan.

How staunchly do you cry out against the inequalities in our own country like gays not having the right to get married, women still having to fight to have the final say so over their own bodies, or the fact that 1% of the population controls a vastly disproportionate amount of the wealth?

Every time a Tea Partier says they want to put God back in everything they're denying the free speech of others, and they only voted for the GOP Crop of Senators in 2010 and for Romney in 2012 because they wanted to combine Church and State.

Iran has a questionable nuclear program and Al Queida exists with or without Osama. Try again.

Islamic followers KILL their gay people in the middle east. Some Islamic women are chipped so their husbands can track them. Mostly though, they can't vote, pray in the back of the mosques, and cant even dress what they want. Oil barrens also are the 1% in the Missle East (people paid billions for their land with oil reserves)

Please, continue.

 

Yeah, Iran has a questionable nuclear program because it's not known to exist.  And even if it does the Istaelis have over 600 nuclear missles.  Al Qaida is just a CIA database of Radical Muslims that the CIA wants to replace with other Radical Muslims.

Christian Cultists kill Gay People in America and Abortion Clinic Doctors.  Christians believe women are supposed to be subsevient to their husbands.  A lot of them still believe women shouldn't be allowed to vote or speak in church.  They don't believe women should be allowed to dress as they want or have any say so over their own bodies.

If Romney had become President and the GOP had won control over both Houses of Congress, then many people really would have seen how disastrous a Christian Theocracy can be in a major country if they've forgotten since the 1940s.

Well your first paragraph is just nonsense. Hows that tin foil hat? Israel has them for protection...since its literally surrounded by countries that want to wipe it off the face of the Earth. Guess what religion is dominant in said countries?....

Christian Cultists? Lol now your talking minorities, compared to common practices that I was referring to. Christians do not believe that, at least its not universal. Double income families in developed worlds is the morm now. I sure hold that belief that a women is her own person. Again, nothing compared to womens rights in the ME. Your talking South United States Christianity, but even that is not as prominent. Christianity is more progressive then you are willing to believe.

Your last paragraph is pure guesswork, and it didnt happen. It astounds me how Christianity is still shit on when it is by far not the most dangerous religion.

Most dominant =/ most dangerous


On my first paragraph:  Funny how it's Israel always encroaching on other people's lands and using the fact that people felt sorry for them after World War II and Christianity's hope for an Apocalyptic End of the World to do so.  Nothing tin foil about that.  Israel's been wanting to make a first strike against Iran for a long time.  Also despite warmongering, Consevative Chickenhawk propaganda the leader of Iran never said anything about blowing Israel off the map.  What he said was Israel needs a regime change.

Actually in America the vast majority of Christians are Christian Cultists because 70% of them are Fundamentalists.  The difference between Cults and Religions are usually defined by the number of followers each group has, but I use a different definition.  I consider anyone that belongs to a group that's core principles and beliefs have been definitely disproven as have all of the notions of religionists since the advent of the Scientific Revolution to be Cultists  (I guess I would still have to count the Liberal 30% in that grouping though though they don't really tend to cause problems).

Since it became the Official Religion of Rome under Constantine to the kilns of Auschwitz Christianity has compiled a death toll far greater than anything else that humans have ever come up with  (   http://www.truthbeknown.com/victims.htm   )  . 

I don't understand this obsession with land. Can't Palestine just give Israel Jeruselem and its surrounding burroughs and leave it alone. You don't have to looks hard to find political comments threatening to destroy Israel.

The vast majority of Christians are not cultists....what an absurd thing to say. Its catholicism by the way, and its one of the more progressive branches of Christianity. The core beliefs and principles are to be a good person and lead a god life.......how is that disproven? lol.

Christainity had its ultra violent times in history, but now in modern times Islam takes the crown. I don;t know why your defending that religion and harping on the little things with Christainity (little by comparison).


It's illegal for Israel to encroach on the West Bank (among other things), yet its very much a part of Benny's plans.

 

The vast majority of Christians are Cultists.  As I said 70% of American Christians are of the true believing sort, yet they believe as they do despite the fact that there is absolutely no evidence to support their literalist belief system and against a mountain of evidence to the contrary yet they will both kill and die for their beliefs rather than get over them.  That makes them cultists.

 

How many people have died in the United States wars on the Middle East since Bush began them?  How many people have died in Rwanda since the Catholic Church allowed the Massacres to occur there, and how many people did the Nazis kill?  Modern Islam really doesn't compare in any way.