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What makes a console "next-gen"...?

Significant power improvement 38 24.20%
 
Release date 17 10.83%
 
Successor to existing console 61 38.85%
 
Significant change in controller interface 0 0%
 
Mix of the above 39 24.84%
 
Total:155
sales2099 said:
Mazty said:
sales2099 said:
Mazty said:
sales2099 said:

A successor, regardless of specs.

Its like a father having a handicapped son....you wouldnt Not call the son the "next generation"? lol cmon


Well then how is the xbox part of the 6th gen as it's not a successor to anything?

Gotta start somewhere. But thats a creationism vs evolution debate.

Lolwut.

Creationism - unfounded religious belief.
Evolution - scientific fact

Not quite sure what your anaolgy has to do with defining console generation. Regardless, your definition doesn't work as it doesn't take into account brand new consoles meaning that from the get go, it's a flawed system.

Xbox was a successor to an idea. k

And how do you define that idea without analysing technology?



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Mazty said:
sales2099 said:
Mazty said:
sales2099 said:
Mazty said:
sales2099 said:

A successor, regardless of specs.

Its like a father having a handicapped son....you wouldnt Not call the son the "next generation"? lol cmon


Well then how is the xbox part of the 6th gen as it's not a successor to anything?

Gotta start somewhere. But thats a creationism vs evolution debate.

Lolwut.

Creationism - unfounded religious belief.
Evolution - scientific fact

Not quite sure what your anaolgy has to do with defining console generation. Regardless, your definition doesn't work as it doesn't take into account brand new consoles meaning that from the get go, it's a flawed system.

Xbox was a successor to an idea. k

And how do you define that idea without analysing technology?

Ok its predessor was a average PC in the year 2000-2001.



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sales2099 said:
Mazty said:

And how do you define that idea without analysing technology?

Ok its predessor was a average PC in the year 2000-2001.

Why shouldn't that be the case for every console released inthe 6th gen? It seems rather abritrary to raise the bar for new consoles but not successors. 



sales2099 said:
Mazty said:
sales2099 said:

A successor, regardless of specs.

Its like a father having a handicapped son....you wouldnt Not call the son the "next generation"? lol cmon


Well then how is the xbox part of the 6th gen as it's not a successor to anything?

Gotta start somewhere. But thats a creationism vs evolution debate.

Just wanted to say that it has nothing to do with evolution. It's creationism vs abiogenesis.



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curl-6 said:
Mazty said:
curl-6 said:
Mazty said:

Actually it does. The best way to explain this is to think about games. If I released a game with 2D graphics, no one would call it next-gen. Yet if I released one that used UE4 to it's greatest extent, it would be called next-gen. The difference is purely power. Claiming a console has to merely be a successor is logically flawed as every console has to start without a successor. 

Unless Nintendo are using tech that has never been seen anywhere and is decades ahead of known technology, you can work out that 70W is not going to give you performance that massively dwarfs either the PS3 or Xbox 360. 

When a console launches without a successor it's in the same gen as its contemporaries. Power is coincidental. (Or with the Wii and 3DS, not) Anyway, if you want to discuss it, here's the thread: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=154418&page=1

(That's mah thread =D )

As I stated, everything else is looked at in terms of power. Look at games. Look at even fighter jets:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth-generation_jet_fighter

" Fifth-generation aircraft are designed to incorporate numerous technological advances over the fourth generation jet fighter"

Next-gen games are considered to offer many improvements over previous gen games. Why this rule is suddenly scrapped for the consoles makes no sense. Plus the article in the OP of this thread seems to believe that power and gen are linked, as well as the head of EA. 

Well, when a definition no longer fits all, then it's not a definition anymore. But that's all I'll say here as there's a thread for that.

The rule is only arbitrarily changed when people talk about consoles. Games are considerd to be releated to power so why not the consoles?



Actually, since the Wii U is out, it's a current gen system. Next gen is only used to refer to a generation that hasn't begun yet. It's incredibly simple to understand...



watsuke said:
Actually, since the Wii U is out, it's a current gen system. Next gen is only used to refer to a generation that hasn't begun yet. It's incredibly simple to understand...

But then that makes every game that hasn't been released next-gen, which we all know isn't the case. 



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PScollector said:
MOAR POWER!!!!!!



Haha spot on



 

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Mazty said:
watsuke said:
Actually, since the Wii U is out, it's a current gen system. Next gen is only used to refer to a generation that hasn't begun yet. It's incredibly simple to understand...

But then that makes every game that hasn't been released next-gen, which we all know isn't the case. 


What? If the games are being made for the PS4 or NextBox, yeah they are next-gen games. If they are being made for the current gen consoles (i.e. PS3, XBOX 360, Wii U), they are current gen games.