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Forums - Gaming - Update:As of Jan19 SSBB outselling PSASBR! Past 3 weeks, Is this a Problem?

 

Describe the Situation!

SSBB rocks!!! 250 69.44%
 
PSASBR will catch up! 21 5.83%
 
Its not as bad... 6 1.67%
 
Doesn't mean ****! 23 6.39%
 
Both great games, Dont matter! 60 16.67%
 
Total:360
miz1q2w3e on 22 January 2013

This makes me happy.



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ghettoglamour on 22 January 2013

PASBARS or whatever is not a flop. It's an average game which I'm sure will make profit in the long run. I guess it'll be close to 1m lifetime, which would be a success. Just because some fanboys predicted some insanely high sales, it's called a flop here.



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zuvuyeay on 22 January 2013

i guess it is a problem the money cannot be flying in,its all about profit in the end



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Piernik on 22 January 2013

PSASBR would be a hit if they would release this game with 40 characters. But morons from Sony are greedy. They wanted to milk everyone with tons of DLC. Fortunately people are not thet stupid and ignored this game.



Jaywood2010 on 22 January 2013
S.T.A.G.E. said:
JayWood2010 said:
Just going to say it since no one else will. Sony All Stars sucks. Ok sucks might be too harsh but it isnt all that good either. I haaaated the beta.


That game was destined to fail the second they announced it was like SSB. The bias had already set in.

Yes but I wanted it to do well.  Ive wanted sony to do a smash bros like game for years.  My issues has nothing to do with the similarities.  If anything they should of had more similarities.  If youre going to copy something then do it right in my opinion.  Everything about the game just feels stiff and meh in my opinion.  They took the chaotic fun away from the game which is one reason peopl like smash bros and then it just turns into a meh fighter.  




       

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richardhutnik on 22 January 2013
JWeinCom said:
richardhutnik said:
tbone51 said:


So as of now PSASBR is selling with lots of discounts and its doing good for a new franchise. But SSBB an old game is outselling PSASBR as of now? SSBB sold more copies a couple times since PSASBR release!

Is this a bad thing? Should it be something to be concerned about?

Discuss...

Only thing to discuss is individuals who argued that All-Stars would end up being the top selling fighting game this generation on the HD consoles.  It is what it is, a game heavily inspired by Smash Bros, on the Playstation platform using Sony's characters.  Yes, it has its own twists, but one would have to ask why what I described would be expected to outsell a flagship franchise on a Nintendo platform with an established base.  Did people expect this base to defect to a Sony platform to play a Smash Bros like game using no Nintendo characters?

Nobody expected it to outsell Brawl, but few people really expected the 5 year old Brawl to be outselling a 2 month old game at this point in time.  Honestly, this says more about Brawl's incredible legs than it does about PSASBR.

There were individuals that were forecasting sales number for All-Stars at levels that would of placed it as the top selling fighting game on the high def consoles. The high def current gen consoles don't even have fighting games that reach the levels  of Brawl actually, but people were predicting over 3 million, which did place it above every other fighting game this generation actually.



richardhutnik on 22 January 2013
JoeTheBro said:
JWeinCom said:
 


Actually, it makes perfect sense. Communities have EVERYTHING to do with depth.   ANY game (and not just video games) evolve as time passes.  Look at the NFL for an example.  50 years ago, the game was far different than it was today.  Why is it so different?  Because players and coaches analyzed the game and found new tactics and strategies to use.  Then, their opponents had to adjust to these new strategies and find ways to combat them.  The more you explore the possibilities, the more things change.

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Of course, none of that really applies in Free For All games.  Just too much going on for any really deep strategy to go on.  2vs2 and 1v1 are where the strategy is at.


I see that you are coming from a different direction. SSB has evolved depth through its communities. Out of the box however bananaking21 and myself would argue that PSASBR is deeper than SSBB was when it launched. Also there are some online communities for Royale so with time it will at least become a bit deeper. One thing I've been exploring is tricking players into biffing their level 1 super. By setting up a "too good to be true" scenario most players will press R2 without comboing into it. In fact that is probably the mechanic that differentiates this game the most from Smash, biffing supers. That would be like having 200% damage in SSB and fully healing by just dodging.

Also level 2 and 3 supers become very useful at the end of a stock/kill limit match. If it's life verse life I'll save up for a level 2 or 3 as long as no one else gets to a level 1.

Oh btw this article has the info about them looking into ranked 1 vs 1. Sorry I didn't post it in the other thread. http://www.dualshockers.com/2012/12/12/superbot-looking-into-timer-for-stockkill-looking-to-balance-drake-raiden-kratos/

@OP. Royale has sold over half a million. With the free character DLC coming out in a few weeks it should keep selling at a steady rate. In time it will sell 5 million + so these two weeks of SSBB outselling the PS3 version are a non issue.

You are predicting All-Stars is going to be THE TOP SELLING fighting game on the high def consoles?  You really think it will hit 5 million?



JWeinCom on 22 January 2013
richardhutnik said:
JWeinCom said:
richardhutnik said:
tbone51 said:


So as of now PSASBR is selling with lots of discounts and its doing good for a new franchise. But SSBB an old game is outselling PSASBR as of now? SSBB sold more copies a couple times since PSASBR release!

Is this a bad thing? Should it be something to be concerned about?

Discuss...

Only thing to discuss is individuals who argued that All-Stars would end up being the top selling fighting game this generation on the HD consoles.  It is what it is, a game heavily inspired by Smash Bros, on the Playstation platform using Sony's characters.  Yes, it has its own twists, but one would have to ask why what I described would be expected to outsell a flagship franchise on a Nintendo platform with an established base.  Did people expect this base to defect to a Sony platform to play a Smash Bros like game using no Nintendo characters?

Nobody expected it to outsell Brawl, but few people really expected the 5 year old Brawl to be outselling a 2 month old game at this point in time.  Honestly, this says more about Brawl's incredible legs than it does about PSASBR.

There were individuals that were forecasting sales number for All-Stars at levels that would of placed it as the top selling fighting game on the high def consoles. The high def current gen consoles don't even have fighting games that reach the levels  of Brawl actually, but people were predicting over 3 million, which did place it above every other fighting game this generation actually.


Due to its nature as a better pick up and play experience and recognizable roster, Smash appeals to a way larger audience than typical fighting games.  Some people expected the same out of PSASBR.  Not saying they were right (I was thinking around 1-1.5 million which seeme unlikely but possible) but I could see why some people thought 2-3 million was possible. 



riderz13371 on 22 January 2013

Is it a problem that an ip which has been well known for 15 years is outselling a new 2012 ip? Naa bro. Sony said all stars was succesful plus you dont know the digital sales.



JoeTheBro on 22 January 2013
richardhutnik said:

You are predicting All-Stars is going to be THE TOP SELLING fighting game on the high def consoles?  You really think it will hit 5 million?


Including digital sales, vita sales, and sales of every franchise referenced in the game I can guarantee will sell 30+ million.



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