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XxPS3_X360xX on 17 January 2013

How did GG ruin the series if GG were the ones who created it?



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mjk45 on 17 January 2013
XxPS3_X360xX said:

How did GG ruin the series if GG were the ones who created it?

Just because some one creates something doesn't mean they can't ruin their own creation with bad choices , but this was more about the backstory of the Helghast and how the backstory made them actually the victims leading to some people had sympathy for them ,and that led to people saying they wouldn't mind playing from the Helgan standpoint , some of us replied that unfortunately the end portrayl of a race  who murder their own dissidents and are lead by psychopaths makes it hard to now be sympathetic .



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bananaking21 on 17 January 2013
XxPS3_X360xX said:

How did GG ruin the series if GG were the ones who created it?


im a huge killzone fan and i dont think that GG ruined the series, but in KZ3 they did forget the roots of the game and whats it about, they looked alot at CoD when it came to some gameplay/online features and uncharted when it came to story telling. if i were to describe KZ2 in one word that would be hardcore, but KZ3 wasnt. they tried to make them game appeal to a more casual audince and one of the example's of this is calling the planet vekta "earth" in killzone3, which wasnt the case in niether KZ2 or KZ3. its like they are trying to change the universie to make it more accesable to new comers which didnt work, and it left a bad taste in Killzone fans mouths



bananaking21 on 17 January 2013
mjk45 said:

Once i would have liked to have played as the Helghast with the backdrop of the Vektan's being pawns to a corrupt UCN who didn't give a damn about them just the planet ,but with the portrayal of Helgan dissidents with their hands tied behind them and on their knees being executed and the psychopathic tendencies of their leaders what ever sympathy I had waned.
Now if they had made the helghan into a terrible juggernaut whose aspect looking from outside speaks of death and destruction but under it's martial bindings it's core is one built on overcoming adversity and a rigid code of honor , that's a Helghan I would have liked to play but alas we got space Nazis.
To me the best character was the Helghan half-caste spy although why he had to be half-caste  to gain some sort of humanity again speaks of guerrilla's viewing them as just a bunch of Nazi's , now contrast  that with their treatment of Rico , here you have a racist who in game 1 is continually insubordinate and fights with his own team mates a man who lost his first squad in a fire fight before joining you and now uses that as a justification for all is actions. Does he change ? not really game 2 finds him still insubordinate and to put the icing on the cake he not only gets Sev's best mate killed by his reckless actions he then commits a war crime by murdering Visari as I cheer his slide down a slippery slope of his own making what happens . they turn him into a hero and have Sev say shit like I would have done it myself , talk about wanting to puke , we now have a shit head being turned into a hero just because someone at guerrilla thinks he is the epitome of a bad ass dude and someone  us men asspire to be and who women dream , while this happens  the best character in the series  is MIA.

i completely agree, couldnt have said it better my self. i hope rico gets his brains shot out in KZ4



bananaking21 on 17 January 2013
Attoyou said:
Great thread, had no idea.

also came across this gem on youtube, off topic but lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kiby2RBvFeE

"My people, sons and daughters of Sony, this much I vow. The history of these days will be written in blood. By crushing the fan-boys of our enemies, by seizing the games they thought to turn against us, we were fighting for our very exclusives. But if our goals will deny us peace and refuse us our rightful place in the gaming industry, then we will unleash SUCH TERRIBLE VENGEANCE THAT GENERATIONS OF CONSOLES YET UNBORN WILL CRY OUT IN ANGUISH."


best fanboy comment evern made. 



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mjk45 on 17 January 2013
bananaking21 said:
mjk45 said:

Once i would have liked to have played as the Helghast with the backdrop of the Vektan's being pawns to a corrupt UCN who didn't give a damn about them just the planet ,but with the portrayal of Helgan dissidents with their hands tied behind them and on their knees being executed and the psychopathic tendencies of their leaders what ever sympathy I had waned.
Now if they had made the helghan into a terrible juggernaut whose aspect looking from outside speaks of death and destruction but under it's martial bindings it's core is one built on overcoming adversity and a rigid code of honor , that's a Helghan I would have liked to play but alas we got space Nazis.
To me the best character was the Helghan half-caste spy although why he had to be half-caste  to gain some sort of humanity again speaks of guerrilla's viewing them as just a bunch of Nazi's , now contrast  that with their treatment of Rico , here you have a racist who in game 1 is continually insubordinate and fights with his own team mates a man who lost his first squad in a fire fight before joining you and now uses that as a justification for all is actions. Does he change ? not really game 2 finds him still insubordinate and to put the icing on the cake he not only gets Sev's best mate killed by his reckless actions he then commits a war crime by murdering Visari as I cheer his slide down a slippery slope of his own making what happens . they turn him into a hero and have Sev say shit like I would have done it myself , talk about wanting to puke , we now have a shit head being turned into a hero just because someone at guerrilla thinks he is the epitome of a bad ass dude and someone  us men asspire to be and who women dream , while this happens  the best character in the series  is MIA.

i completely agree, couldnt have said it better my self. i hope rico gets his brains shot out in KZ4

Yes , I will be magnanimous and allow you first shot I don't mind ,  shooting a couple of hundred rounds into his  dead body should compensate me .



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bananaking21 on 17 January 2013
mjk45 said:
bananaking21 said:
mjk45 said:

Once i would have liked to have played as the Helghast with the backdrop of the Vektan's being pawns to a corrupt UCN who didn't give a damn about them just the planet ,but with the portrayal of Helgan dissidents with their hands tied behind them and on their knees being executed and the psychopathic tendencies of their leaders what ever sympathy I had waned.
Now if they had made the helghan into a terrible juggernaut whose aspect looking from outside speaks of death and destruction but under it's martial bindings it's core is one built on overcoming adversity and a rigid code of honor , that's a Helghan I would have liked to play but alas we got space Nazis.
To me the best character was the Helghan half-caste spy although why he had to be half-caste  to gain some sort of humanity again speaks of guerrilla's viewing them as just a bunch of Nazi's , now contrast  that with their treatment of Rico , here you have a racist who in game 1 is continually insubordinate and fights with his own team mates a man who lost his first squad in a fire fight before joining you and now uses that as a justification for all is actions. Does he change ? not really game 2 finds him still insubordinate and to put the icing on the cake he not only gets Sev's best mate killed by his reckless actions he then commits a war crime by murdering Visari as I cheer his slide down a slippery slope of his own making what happens . they turn him into a hero and have Sev say shit like I would have done it myself , talk about wanting to puke , we now have a shit head being turned into a hero just because someone at guerrilla thinks he is the epitome of a bad ass dude and someone  us men asspire to be and who women dream , while this happens  the best character in the series  is MIA.

i completely agree, couldnt have said it better my self. i hope rico gets his brains shot out in KZ4

Yes , I will be magnanimous and allow you first shot I don't mind ,  shooting a couple of hundred rounds into his  dead body should compensate me .

i dont think that would work, if i get to shoot the first shot im going to blow up his ass with a bazooka 



mjk45 on 17 January 2013
bananaking21 said:
mjk45 said:
bananaking21 said:
mjk45 said:

Once i would have liked to have played as the Helghast with the backdrop of the Vektan's being pawns to a corrupt UCN who didn't give a damn about them just the planet ,but with the portrayal of Helgan dissidents with their hands tied behind them and on their knees being executed and the psychopathic tendencies of their leaders what ever sympathy I had waned.
Now if they had made the helghan into a terrible juggernaut whose aspect looking from outside speaks of death and destruction but under it's martial bindings it's core is one built on overcoming adversity and a rigid code of honor , that's a Helghan I would have liked to play but alas we got space Nazis.
To me the best character was the Helghan half-caste spy although why he had to be half-caste  to gain some sort of humanity again speaks of guerrilla's viewing them as just a bunch of Nazi's , now contrast  that with their treatment of Rico , here you have a racist who in game 1 is continually insubordinate and fights with his own team mates a man who lost his first squad in a fire fight before joining you and now uses that as a justification for all is actions. Does he change ? not really game 2 finds him still insubordinate and to put the icing on the cake he not only gets Sev's best mate killed by his reckless actions he then commits a war crime by murdering Visari as I cheer his slide down a slippery slope of his own making what happens . they turn him into a hero and have Sev say shit like I would have done it myself , talk about wanting to puke , we now have a shit head being turned into a hero just because someone at guerrilla thinks he is the epitome of a bad ass dude and someone  us men asspire to be and who women dream , while this happens  the best character in the series  is MIA.

i completely agree, couldnt have said it better my self. i hope rico gets his brains shot out in KZ4

Yes , I will be magnanimous and allow you first shot I don't mind ,  shooting a couple of hundred rounds into his  dead body should compensate me .

i dont think that would work, if i get to shoot the first shot im going to blow up his ass with a bazooka 

Yes I forgot you did say you hoped rico got his brains shot out and that equates to having to  shooting him in the ass , The only hiccup I see in your plan is taking into account the fact that he's all ass ,  the bazooka might be a bit underpowered.



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bananaking21 on 17 January 2013
mjk45 said:
bananaking21 said:
mjk45 said:
bananaking21 said:
mjk45 said:

Once i would have liked to have played as the Helghast with the backdrop of the Vektan's being pawns to a corrupt UCN who didn't give a damn about them just the planet ,but with the portrayal of Helgan dissidents with their hands tied behind them and on their knees being executed and the psychopathic tendencies of their leaders what ever sympathy I had waned.
Now if they had made the helghan into a terrible juggernaut whose aspect looking from outside speaks of death and destruction but under it's martial bindings it's core is one built on overcoming adversity and a rigid code of honor , that's a Helghan I would have liked to play but alas we got space Nazis.
To me the best character was the Helghan half-caste spy although why he had to be half-caste  to gain some sort of humanity again speaks of guerrilla's viewing them as just a bunch of Nazi's , now contrast  that with their treatment of Rico , here you have a racist who in game 1 is continually insubordinate and fights with his own team mates a man who lost his first squad in a fire fight before joining you and now uses that as a justification for all is actions. Does he change ? not really game 2 finds him still insubordinate and to put the icing on the cake he not only gets Sev's best mate killed by his reckless actions he then commits a war crime by murdering Visari as I cheer his slide down a slippery slope of his own making what happens . they turn him into a hero and have Sev say shit like I would have done it myself , talk about wanting to puke , we now have a shit head being turned into a hero just because someone at guerrilla thinks he is the epitome of a bad ass dude and someone  us men asspire to be and who women dream , while this happens  the best character in the series  is MIA.

i completely agree, couldnt have said it better my self. i hope rico gets his brains shot out in KZ4

Yes , I will be magnanimous and allow you first shot I don't mind ,  shooting a couple of hundred rounds into his  dead body should compensate me .

i dont think that would work, if i get to shoot the first shot im going to blow up his ass with a bazooka 

Yes I forgot you did say you hoped rico got his brains shot out and that equates to having to  shooting him in the ass , The only hiccup I see in your plan is taking into account the fact that he's all ass ,  the bazooka might be a bit underpowered.

i really liked that laser gun we used in Kz2 or maybe that green electric shit in Kz3. both would work!



mjk45 on 17 January 2013
bananaking21 said:
mjk45 said:
bananaking21 said:
mjk45 said:
bananaking21 said:
mjk45 said:

Once i would have liked to have played as the Helghast with the backdrop of the Vektan's being pawns to a corrupt UCN who didn't give a damn about them just the planet ,but with the portrayal of Helgan dissidents with their hands tied behind them and on their knees being executed and the psychopathic tendencies of their leaders what ever sympathy I had waned.
Now if they had made the helghan into a terrible juggernaut whose aspect looking from outside speaks of death and destruction but under it's martial bindings it's core is one built on overcoming adversity and a rigid code of honor , that's a Helghan I would have liked to play but alas we got space Nazis.
To me the best character was the Helghan half-caste spy although why he had to be half-caste  to gain some sort of humanity again speaks of guerrilla's viewing them as just a bunch of Nazi's , now contrast  that with their treatment of Rico , here you have a racist who in game 1 is continually insubordinate and fights with his own team mates a man who lost his first squad in a fire fight before joining you and now uses that as a justification for all is actions. Does he change ? not really game 2 finds him still insubordinate and to put the icing on the cake he not only gets Sev's best mate killed by his reckless actions he then commits a war crime by murdering Visari as I cheer his slide down a slippery slope of his own making what happens . they turn him into a hero and have Sev say shit like I would have done it myself , talk about wanting to puke , we now have a shit head being turned into a hero just because someone at guerrilla thinks he is the epitome of a bad ass dude and someone  us men asspire to be and who women dream , while this happens  the best character in the series  is MIA.

i completely agree, couldnt have said it better my self. i hope rico gets his brains shot out in KZ4

Yes , I will be magnanimous and allow you first shot I don't mind ,  shooting a couple of hundred rounds into his  dead body should compensate me .

i dont think that would work, if i get to shoot the first shot im going to blow up his ass with a bazooka 

Yes I forgot you did say you hoped rico got his brains shot out and that equates to having to  shooting him in the ass , The only hiccup I see in your plan is taking into account the fact that he's all ass ,  the bazooka might be a bit underpowered.

i really liked that laser gun we used in Kz2 or maybe that green electric shit in Kz3. both would work!

as long as you buy me a splatter proof raincoat i'm fine with orbital bombardment or that huge crazy ass helgan machine .



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