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A game flopping should be based on...

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kumagawa on 02 December 2012
scottie said:
kumagawa said:

Resident evil 6 has sold over 3 million copies it is as far from a financial flop as you can get. Rating and expections it's a huge disappoinment but it still made money.

 

game is a flop = franchise dies

game is not a flop = sequel


So RE is not a flop because it sold 3 million

Therefore Guitar Hero 5, which sold ~5 million copies, at a higher price is presumably not a flop.

But GH 5 was the last in the franchise, so it is a flop?

 

You have 2, very inconsistent definitions.

 

Face it, if Black Ops 2 and Sony Smash Bros both sold 5 million accross all platforms, they would both make a profit, both would have sequels, but one would be a flop and one wouldn't.


Guitar Hero: Warriors of Rock was the last game in the Guitar Hero franchise which was released in 2010 (http://www.vgchartz.com/gamedb/?name=Guitar+Hero%3A+Warriors+of+Rock&publisher=&platform=&genre=&minSales=0&results=200) and sold less 800,000 copies or less per version.

 

A CoD game would be a flop only through analyst expectations which just goes to show how stupid the market is.

 

My favourite is Apple (http://www.phonearena.com/news/Apple-made-more-than-Microsoft-Google-eBay-Yahoo-Amazon-and-Facebook-combined-in-fiscal-2012_id37040) it makes more money than Microsoft , Google, eBay, Amazon, Yahoo and Facebook profits all together yet it's share price dropped because it was below expectations!



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scottie on 02 December 2012

I stand corrected re: GH. But there are plenty of games that don't get sequels, despite making a profit.

 

Do you really think analysts are stupid for predicting that the next CoD will sell over 5 million?

 

As for the Apple stock price thing, that's actually quite logical.

 

The ridiculous amount of money made by Apple was already known to people before the new earnings announcement, and was already taken into account in Apple's share price, which, last I saw, was ridiculously high. Then we get some new information that Apple isn't going to do quite as well, and the share price drops from ridiculously high to very high.



slowmo on 02 December 2012

Surely something flops if it doesn't meet a arbitrary target. This target can be sales, profit, quality, etc. As long as the person declaring the product to be a flop defines their reasoning and criteria correctly there is no further definition required.