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kowenicki said:
exclusive_console said:
@Kynes and Kowenicki

Care to explain. How big is financial services. Since how long they have been doing it ?

PS is more than 10yrs old. 300+ million consoles sold already. How is it comparison to gaming. I think Financial services is free money for them which they obviously will like to continue.

Gaming and entertainment is what Sony cares about most and so do millions for PS gamers :)

PS3 is only 6yrs 70million, next 5 yrs I think they will easily go past 120million. So much still left where as other consoles are already done and dusted.

PS4 ans also with cloud gaming they are going to set new standard in console gaming again.


All your questions answered?

 

No. What I am saying PS brand which is the leder in gaming is more popular and probably the best thing about Sony.

Financial services, who would ever even know if they do not look FY report. Nobody will know Sony about Financial services.

 

 

 



 

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exclusive_console said:
kowenicki said:
exclusive_console said:
@Kynes and Kowenicki

Care to explain. How big is financial services. Since how long they have been doing it ?

PS is more than 10yrs old. 300+ million consoles sold already. How is it comparison to gaming. I think Financial services is free money for them which they obviously will like to continue.

Gaming and entertainment is what Sony cares about most and so do millions for PS gamers :)

PS3 is only 6yrs 70million, next 5 yrs I think they will easily go past 120million. So much still left where as other consoles are already done and dusted.

PS4 ans also with cloud gaming they are going to set new standard in console gaming again.


All your questions answered?

 

No. What I am saying PS brand which is the leder in gaming is more popular and probably the best thing about Sony.

Financial services, who would ever even know if they do not look FY report. Nobody will know Sony about Financial services.

A) They aren't the leader in gaming.

B) Investors, stock holders... pretty much everybody who matters.

If  Playstation were to disapear.  Gamers would be sad.   If Sony Financial were to disapear...  gamers would be sad... because Playstation would be right behind it.



exclusive_console said:
kowenicki said:
exclusive_console said:
@Kynes and Kowenicki

Care to explain. How big is financial services. Since how long they have been doing it ?

PS is more than 10yrs old. 300+ million consoles sold already. How is it comparison to gaming. I think Financial services is free money for them which they obviously will like to continue.

Gaming and entertainment is what Sony cares about most and so do millions for PS gamers :)

PS3 is only 6yrs 70million, next 5 yrs I think they will easily go past 120million. So much still left where as other consoles are already done and dusted.

PS4 ans also with cloud gaming they are going to set new standard in console gaming again.


All your questions answered?

 

No. What I am saying PS brand which is the leder in gaming is more popular and probably the best thing about Sony.

Financial services, who would ever even know if they do not look FY report. Nobody will know Sony about Financial services.

 

 

 

Sony hasn't been the leader in gaming for quite some time in any regards. Even when they released new hardware it didn't catch the publics imagination. They never enjoyed the stampedes that either Microsoft or Nintendo saw this generation. Basically their gaming division has become low key. When most people talk about Sony. They are usually referring to Sony pictures, or their television business. The reality is that in Western markets game consoles are in maybe a quarter of homes, and Sony only sees a fraction of that. While everyone has seen a Sony picture at the theaters, or has seen a Sony television prominently displayed in someones home.

Basically the only reason that the PS3 got half the media attention is has over the past five years is that it turned into a real cluster fuck for the company. When people talk about Microsoft they almost never reference the console. Hell the only reason that Nintendo was so high up in media attention for the longest time is their console became a break out must have toy. Whether it is fair or not the only time that Sony seems to get noticed anymore is when they are fucking up.

Sony's financial services are localized primarily to Japan, and I can bet you they get noticed there. Those services are probably far more infrastructure critical to the global economy then Sony's gaming division. I would bet you that their name in that market carrys far more weight in much more of the world then their game console. Which directly impacts fewer then seventy million people. Sony is probably insuring companies that do business in third world countries that don't even have decent power grids. Basically you probably have a few hundred million people that have to deal with Sony's financial business in one way or another.

So there goes your point about nobody knowing. Hell you live in India if your profile is to be believed. So for you Sony should be a television channel brand. Are you saying that you don't even watch television, but can somehow afford a PS3. Color me dubious.



Kasz216 said:
exclusive_console said:
kowenicki said:
exclusive_console said:
@Kynes and Kowenicki

Care to explain. How big is financial services. Since how long they have been doing it ?

PS is more than 10yrs old. 300+ million consoles sold already. How is it comparison to gaming. I think Financial services is free money for them which they obviously will like to continue.

Gaming and entertainment is what Sony cares about most and so do millions for PS gamers :)

PS3 is only 6yrs 70million, next 5 yrs I think they will easily go past 120million. So much still left where as other consoles are already done and dusted.

PS4 ans also with cloud gaming they are going to set new standard in console gaming again.


All your questions answered?

 

No. What I am saying PS brand which is the leder in gaming is more popular and probably the best thing about Sony.

Financial services, who would ever even know if they do not look FY report. Nobody will know Sony about Financial services.

 

 

A) They aren't the leader in gaming.

B) Investors, stock holders... pretty much everybody who matters.

If  Playstation were to disapear.  Gamers would be sad.   If Sony Financial were to disapear...  gamers would be sad... because Playstation would be right behind it.

They have sold most consoles in gaming history.  PS2 is still being sold in Asian countries. PS3 is expected to last even longer.

Thier exclusives games set standards in console gaming in different genre.

I never said they should stop their Financial services. However not one will be telling their grand children about it. People will say they played the great PS games on their childhood. Who knows in a decade or 2 what gaming will become ?

As I said already it is probably the best thing about Sony. User if they can charge for online gameplay, which is ridicolous. They can get lost of free money via it. Probably next gen when 720 will cost probably 100$ subscription fees for online. Sony will also charge :(

@dodec ^



 

Andrespetmonkey said:
kain_kusanagi said:
I'm seriously considering buying Sony stock. If it's worthless now I has no where to go but up and I very much expect Sony to dig themselves out of this whole. I may take them years but they will get back up on top. Buy low sell high.

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