mantlepiecek said:
DarkThanatos said:
Ok, so you've dropped the entire bit about me suspecting Zero, and are now back to my logic about the split.
You are suspecting me because i theorised about the town/scum/third party split. My god the horror.
I will explain it to you once again, because you have still not come to terms with it.
There were 21 players. Usually 2/3 or more are town. That would mean that roughly 7 or less are not town. This can be assumed to be roughly correct purely for balancing purposes of a standard game. (1)
6/7 is a huge size for a single scum team. As in theory it could mean scum win with 12/14 players still in the game, the size of a whole new game, I think it is pretty obscene to find a 6/7 sized scum team. Even Mafiascum agrees with me on this. (2)
If we are to make a game with roughly the normal split of town-not town, then it is possible we have two scum teams. (3)
To make them balance we can guess them to be possibly a 3-3 split. Alternatively, we may have a normal scum group and an SK. (4+1) (5+1) (4)
Which part of those do you disagree with? When i made the original post I said feel free to disagree with me on the numbers if you think differently- but instead you just said i was scum. So I'm giving you a second chance. I even numbered them for ease of use.
That was the information we had at the time available to us. I do not think it is an unreasonable leap of logic to make those conclusions, or scummy in anyway.
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If you just made a theory it would have been different. You used that theory to support another one.
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I take it from the complete lack of disagreement with any of the easily labelled points that you are finally conceding that this is a decent theory?
As for the second part about me using a theory to support another theory;
Are you referring to the fact I used this scenario to support my "theory" that one of the four people on Zero was probably scum? I will go through that again for you, because apparently that works now.
Usually 2/3 or slightly less of the players playing a game are town, so therefore about 1/3 are non-town. (1)
4 people are on Zero, so because 1/3 are usually non-town, probably one of the players is non-town.This is further likely because scum tend to add to suspicion on players for mislynch. If Zero is town, this would mean that one of the players on him is very likely scum. (2)
If Zero is scum, then there are two possible scenarios. Either he is in one of two teams or he is part of a single bigger scum team. The reason why I am considering two scum teams is because of my above logic leading me to suspect there may be two scum teams. (3)
If Zero is part of two scum teams, then the point about scum putting suspicion on players to make it easier to mislynch still stands. (4)
If Zero is part of a bigger scum team, then because of teh size of the game, they may well be distancing themselves from Zero in case he gets lynched. They would probably not vote them that early in the game though, which fits with many of them saying they are highly suspicious but not actually voting. It would be illogical to think multiple scumbuddies would be doing that that early though. So if there is, it would probably be only one player at a max. (5)
The last paragraph is not a definate though, they may not be giving scum buddies FoS/HoS that early, hence why i said in this situation it is not a strong case on it's own. However I think trying to distance yourself works better if you say it early, rather then when multiple people are doing it, hence why it is still a scenario to consider. (6)
Really this is more for town's benefit then yours though. Because more and more players are catching on to your flip-flopping, bad logic scumminess.
