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DarkThanatos on 25 November 2012

Well Prof, you haven't really left me much to work with. Just a couple of things I think you missed :P

mantlepiecek said:

I actually didn't KNOW he is the day vig. Again, it was a possibility in my eyes. Which is probably suspected by a lot of people that he is the day vig.

2) In the case that he is the day-vig, he should have for balancing purposes one-shot. That's what I thought anyway, since he didn't care to claim, WHY should I try and think that he is not one-shot?

3) I didn't even see the part where he claimed power role.

4) I wasn't pretty confident at him being town.

@Bolded. For balancing purposes? You've already claimed ignorance of the team sizes. How can you comment about balancing unless you know more then we do? For all we know it could be counter balanced with a strong town team or a weak scum. Do you know any more information about scum's strength?

mantlepiecek said:
miz1q2w3e said:

Not wanting to talk in general. You mostly never talked unless as a reply to someone.

Not true. I have been constantly talking this game, I probably have the highest activity. I have suspected people, I have provided my reads, when they change etc.

If you do, its because when someone makes a point at you, you respond with blinding misunderstanding/denial of their points, so they have to do it 19 times. OR people have to press you to give them actual quotes. 

 

Finally- Notice how Prof will make several points at once afainst Mantle. Mantle will respond to 2/3 and ignore the rest because he knows he can't argue against it. 



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mantlepiecek on 25 November 2012
theprof00 said:
mantlepiecek said:

I thought he could be sk because he didn't claim it. Sk's don't claim their kills whereas vigs should never have that fear of getting called out.

So then why not say that you think nine is the SK?

It is the same thing. SK is a power role as is the day vig, the only difference is the alignment. When you asked if I knew he is a power role, I guessed that he could be the one who killed stefl. So the day vig part. However, I was not sure if he was Day SK or even the person who killed stefl, really.

I later thought he could be town by virtue of haxton's vote. That is the only thing that even made me consider him as a possible mislynch setup.



mantlepiecek on 25 November 2012
DarkThanatos said:

Well Prof, you haven't really left me much to work with. Just a couple of things I think you missed :P

mantlepiecek said:

I actually didn't KNOW he is the day vig. Again, it was a possibility in my eyes. Which is probably suspected by a lot of people that he is the day vig.

2) In the case that he is the day-vig, he should have for balancing purposes one-shot. That's what I thought anyway, since he didn't care to claim, WHY should I try and think that he is not one-shot?

3) I didn't even see the part where he claimed power role.

4) I wasn't pretty confident at him being town.

@Bolded. For balancing purposes? You've already claimed ignorance of the team sizes. How can you comment about balancing unless you know more then we do? For all we know it could be counter balanced with a strong town team or a weak scum. Do you know any more information about scum's strength?

mantlepiecek said:
miz1q2w3e said:

Not wanting to talk in general. You mostly never talked unless as a reply to someone.

Not true. I have been constantly talking this game, I probably have the highest activity. I have suspected people, I have provided my reads, when they change etc.

If you do, its because when someone makes a point at you, you respond with blinding misunderstanding/denial of their points, so they have to do it 19 times. OR people have to press you to give them actual quotes. 

 

Finally- Notice how Prof will make several points at once afainst Mantle. Mantle will respond to 2/3 and ignore the rest because he knows he can't argue against it. 

I have replied to every point of prof as far as I know.

And as for the balancing part, I think an overeager day vigilante who cannot be blocked, bussed, or manipulated is overpowered. That point was introduced by trucks, and I thought it was a good one.



HaxtonFale on 25 November 2012

I'm a bad player, since going with "don't speak unless you have something valuable to say" (well, sans the bad jokes) policy is not the best idea in this game. Either bear with me or get me killed.

What I do know is that for me this game is getting somewhat stale and I believe that it would be healthiest for everyone if something new has happened. Going for time limit will be very bad news for 9TC, who admitted to being vigilante (though only under severe pressure - and his still unexplained claims about two mafia still bug me a little), so I suppose I Unvote.

But hey, now I have a spare vote! I can't just go and do nothing after saying about game going stale. I suppose I might as well scumbuddy prof... I mean, notice that I understand prof and DT's reasoning regarding mantle. I also love his nigh-instant suspicion of new people who don't know how to play. We are the easiest targets for starters, after all~

So, in conclusion I Vote: mantlepiecek



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theprof00 on 25 November 2012
mantlepiecek said:
theprof00 said:
mantlepiecek said:

I thought he could be sk because he didn't claim it. Sk's don't claim their kills whereas vigs should never have that fear of getting called out.

So then why not say that you think nine is the SK?

It is the same thing. SK is a power role as is the day vig, the only difference is the alignment. When you asked if I knew he is a power role, I guessed that he could be the one who killed stefl. So the day vig part. However, I was not sure if he was Day SK or even the person who killed stefl, really.

I later thought he could be town by virtue of haxton's vote. That is the only thing that even made me consider him as a possible mislynch setup.

Sorry, I meant to ask 'why didn't you tell the town of your suspicion that 9tc might be an SK'.



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mantlepiecek on 25 November 2012

I believe everyone who is on my lynch today to be scum, except for Miz whom I consider blundering townie.

Prof is most likely scum because of his questioning that is pretty much intended to try and pain suspicion on me. He doesn't consider my answers at all. He has no intention to, that I realize.

Hat because he said nothing before voting. I also think he voted nine, he has shown signs of jumping on lynch trains. From what I know from meta this also matches with his scum play.

Haxton and DT I have already explained.

This is also the reason why I still feel confident that I will not be lynched. I will fight.



DarkThanatos on 25 November 2012

Miz has come out quite well off this.
Happy D not so much. Would like to see him give a bit more reason behind his town view of mantle.
Spurge- please PLEASE don't start posting as much about happyD as we have about Mantle right now. Still give a brief reason for your scumpicion?



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mantlepiecek on 25 November 2012
theprof00 said:
mantlepiecek said:
theprof00 said:
mantlepiecek said:

I thought he could be sk because he didn't claim it. Sk's don't claim their kills whereas vigs should never have that fear of getting called out.

So then why not say that you think nine is the SK?

It is the same thing. SK is a power role as is the day vig, the only difference is the alignment. When you asked if I knew he is a power role, I guessed that he could be the one who killed stefl. So the day vig part. However, I was not sure if he was Day SK or even the person who killed stefl, really.

I later thought he could be town by virtue of haxton's vote. That is the only thing that even made me consider him as a possible mislynch setup.

Sorry, I meant to ask 'why didn't you tell the town of your suspicion that 9tc might be an SK'.

Because when I thought of that nine wasn't the one I was thinking. I was thinking that there might not really be a day vig, he could be a day sk.

Nine came into my imagination a little later. I don't exactly remember. And I was busy with DT and you.



hatmoza on 25 November 2012
happydolphin said:
hatmoza said:

Vote Mantle

The timing of this vote is very peculiar. You were clearly online, given your post up above just a moment ago.

The moment I support mantle, you support prof.

Haha

Town, see hatmoza buddyin prof.


All I care for is a mantle lynch and scum flip and the rest will speak for itself. I have no time to tell you how wrong you are. In the case mantle doesn't flip scum, we go after prof. It's that simple. But I think prof is onto something and he wouldn't be stupid enough to go after mantle this strongly as scum.



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Final-Fan on 25 November 2012
mantlepiecek said:

Yes, because it makes sense. YOU have no idea when I used this before, and how I used this. Believe me, DT, this is exactly how scum react - they get caught by me, and then use sarcasm to try and deflect suspicion.

This is about the "Why would I want to continue to do this?".

You aren't continuing to do this, you are just trying to poorly defend yourself. Or maybe you are trying to defend yourself properly but are failing.

FF didn't even realize my exact reasoning on why I am suspicious of you, so you actually quoting him, and trying to use his point, is once again, suspicious because it means you are OK with any defence as long as it is positive about you.

Your TLDR is hilarious. If anyone actually just reads your TLDR then I would like to congratulate him on his weak play.

I didn't even ask why you are pushing me.

THE MAIN REASON I  suspected you, is because you thought zero was scum and then proceeded to ACT town by saying there could be a scum vote on him. Saying 3rd party could have tried to mislynch Using ridiculous excuses like you don't know how 3rd party play since you have never been one - That is what I mean by acting unintelligent.

You didn't just make up a theory for NO reason. You made a theory to support your over the top "defence" of someone whom you suspected.

You are 100% scum DT. I wouldn't even be surprised if there are 2 scum teams now composing of 3 + 3.

You want town to look at my posts critically, like I said before. You are hoping desperately that town comes to your rescue. Your paranoia over my vote - your discussion with Yoshiya, everything makes me feel worse about you.

You may have had other "exact reasoning", but you were definitely using the "only scum would consider two factions" argument as if it was a good argument in support of your case.  Which it's not, IMO. 



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