The fact is the games are coming. The big conventions throughout the year have shown several titles for the Vita.

Keep brushing the system and its games under the rug. Keep trying to cover up the fact you created this thread for attention...I mean your deep rooted care for the system's future (however I haven't heard you say anything positive about the games it has received.)

Keep moving the goal posts. It makes you think your winning. When really you're not, but do continue. Because this is becoming entertaining to watch all the back pedaling.

Yes you did! In fact, you never saw me saying anything bad about a game vita received, period.

Actually, In a reply to your post in this same thread I said persona is one of the best JRPG games I've played. To me the best of PS2, I think. Superior than SMT3. Maybe tied with KH2.

Want more? Gravity Rush is fantastic. Virtua Tennis is guaranteed great (one of the games I played the most on PSP). Ragnarok is probably very fun too. And PASBR I like a lot.

But honestly, I'm talking about future support here - as, I believe, Vita is not in the best situation right now, and my main point is, this is not the way to get out of it.

It is fine to believe that you feel the system is lacking in games for 2013. However, there really isn't much anybody knows about 2013's games line-up. There are an infinite amount of possibilities there. Including Vita.

It is nice to hear that you have something positive to say about the Vita. Whether it was just something you made up or genuinely feel is a different topic.

The system is young and even though developers said it could take them a max of 9 months to make Vita games, I'm sure they would like to spend more time on their games. And honestly speaking TGS was not bad. Sony had announcements for all their systems. Vita is getting Vita versions of popular PSP franchises like God Eater. In another point games like Assassin's Creed III (including Liberation), Call of Duty Blops 2 (including Declassified), Halo 4, New Super Mario Bros. U, PlayStation All-Stars, LittleBigPlanet Karting, Wii U launch have taken up the media's talking points for the next few months. If a new game was announced this week, it would be overshadowed by the enormous holiday season approaching.

Right after the holidays Sony has powerful IP ready for next year, God of War, The Last of Us, Beyond: Two Souls, Soul Sacrifice and Sly Cooper. Microsoft has Gears of War, Nintendo will be hot on the media trail covering the fact the Wii U just launched. So it will be difficult for developers and publishers (with most of the big companies coming out of one of the most crowded release schedules in recent memory) possibly fatigued and waiting to see how their holiday plan worked and adjust accordingly. Any announcements within these next 6 months will, most likely result in no real press.

Unless the announcement is Grand Theft Auto 5 releases in May 2013. Then people MIGHT (sacastic when saying might) take notice.

OP does have a point though, Sony doesn't seem to be supporting Vita very much. No AAA game developer is making games for it, its all B-teams or F-teams like Nihilistic O_O

1. If software that SONY launched isn't appealing to you, that doesn't mean that it isn't appealing to anyone else. SONY's 1st part line-up was great thus far, and more amazing games are coming. Because if SONY's 1st party line-up simply doesn't move consoles, than almost 70 million PS3 user bought it to play Call of Duty on it.

2. You want to talk numbers? Why not. 7,8 million 3DS's vs 1 million Vita's. Since the market shares are "so similar", sales numbers are really compareable. Let's look at attcahment rates. 900000 DQ copies/ 7,8 million consoles = 11,5%, So every tenth 3DS owner in Japan bought DQ. 230000 Persona 4 copies / 1 million consoles = 23% So every fifth Vita owner  bought Persona 4. (DQ and Persona being highest selling JRPGS only released in Japan thus far).

You should streighten your facts. Since DQ is at 0,9 million and Vita sales are at 2,04 million. And honestly I don't think that during the past month or so, 1,14 million Vita games were sold in Japan.

3. Why? Is Vita too expensive for you? Even with price drop you would still find something to troll about. And SONY's obvious strategy is bundles, ergo more value for money. So I don't see price cut coming too soon, and honestly I don't think that system needs a price cut. Memory on other hand... But that's another story.

Big games take a while to prepare. That's true. GoW Chains of Olympus launched in 2008, Daxter in 2006, Crisis Core in 2008... and PSP? End of 2004. You see my point? This is Vita's 1st year.

I am angry at you!

You say angry, but I would imagine that maybe you are just being sacastic? Maybe just combative? You could be actually be very happy and not angry. Lol. (although I'm not laughing out loud)

Yes, that is funny, because if your original point is still intact, that consoles need third party support to be successful, then PSP is really the WORST supporting evidence you can use as it was still creamed by the DS.

You now say "You think a system doesn't need big exclusive games. Let me think the opposite". I'm glad that you've now reversed your position on the exclusive games to now include first party sales.

Maintainance: Again, this is a very time-sensitive thread commenting on a lack of announcements bar the next six months during which many of the games have been pushed to pre-Christmas, and the next 3 months have some very nice first party, and despite your opinion on them, ports with expanded content.
Ports? Look at persona 4 the golden in Japan, a port. Increased vita sales from 14k to 33k, and has nearly 100k preorders in the USA while still a month out.

12 Persona 4: The Golden (PSV) Atlus, Role-Playing 2 3,045 88,604

Your metrics are baseless in this whole point.

Most of your point rests on this idea:

PSP had 3pexclusives, ds did not, sales were 30 v 70%
Now, vita doesn't have 3pexclusives announced for the next 6 months, 3ds does, sales will deteriorate.

That is absolutely the wrong way to look at it because the most important thing to a console is THE GAMES. Not specifically who makes them. pPsp had some very good 3pexclusives that helped them stay in the game. 3DS still doesn't really have the quality of third party exclusive games that PSP had, but they still have more third party exclusive games than VITA does currently. My point here is that third party exclusives aren't what keeps a system competitive, citing that psp is an exception because its third party was strikingly good, while supporting my statement by saying that 3ds has more 3pexclusives than vita, though it's not those games that are selling the systems. Again, you are taking a random metric of what you consider to be a defining necessity, and basing all your assumptions of that incorrect assessment.

To make it simple for you yet again, your metric is wrong because we haev historical evidence showing that consoles do not rely or require 3rd party exclusives to be successful. What is most important is the game library and the value of the system. Both of these requirements show in the 3ds, all of them show in the 360, ps3, and wii, and the psp, the one console that actually supports your viewpoint gameswise (needing 3rd party support) is not supported by it's own sales. Yes psp would have failed without good third party support, but it doesn't prove that a console needs 3rd party support to be successful. Period.

theprof00 said: Yes, that is funny, because if your original point is still intact, that consoles need third party support to be successful, then PSP is really the WORST supporting evidence you can use as it was still creamed by the DS. You now say "You think a system doesn't need big exclusive games. Let me think the opposite". I'm glad that you've now reversed your position on the exclusive games to now include first party sales. Maintainance: Again, this is a very time-sensitive thread commenting on a lack of announcements bar the next six months during which many of the games have been pushed to pre-Christmas, and the next 3 months have some very nice first party, and despite your opinion on them, ports with expanded content. Ports? Look at persona 4 the golden in Japan, a port. Increased vita sales from 14k to 33k, and has nearly 100k preorders in the USA while still a month out. 12 Persona 4: The Golden (PSV) Atlus, Role-Playing 2 3,045 88,604         Your metrics are baseless in this whole point. Most of your point rests on this idea: PSP had 3pexclusives, ds did not, sales were 30 v 70% Now, vita doesn't have 3pexclusives announced for the next 6 months, 3ds does, sales will deteriorate. That is absolutely the wrong way to look at it because the most important thing to a console is THE GAMES. Not specifically who makes them. PSP just so happened to have some VERY GOOD 3pexclusive games, but 3ds still really doesn't, even though it has more 3pexclusives. Again, you are taking a random metric of what you consider to be a defining necessity, and basing all your assumptions of that incorrect assessment. To make it simple for you yet again, your metric is wrong because we haev historical evidence showing that consoles do not rely or require 3rd party exclusives to be successful. What is most important is the game library and the value of the system. Both of these requirements show in the 3ds, all of them show in the 360, ps3, and wii, and the psp, the one console that actually supports your viewpoint gameswise (needing 3rd party support) is not supported by it's own sales. Yes psp would have failed without good third party support, but it doesn't prove that a console needs 3rd party support to be successful. Period.

When you include stuff like this, its easy to just ignore what you have to say. Everything else I agree with.

And it won't mean you'll listen to reason either.

1. Yeah first party games help sell systems. Glad you agree with me here because it is at the crux of why you're OP is frivolous.
2. Yeah, but it's still going to be on the wiiU. And don't let my laughter upset you when I giggle that a reason you bought a console is in part for a game that you've never played, even when there is one on a system you do currently own.
3. Yeah, but you never mentioned it as a reason for buying the system either...unless the only reasons you bought the system was for a first party game and another game that you've never played.

Big games DO take a while to get ready. The problem is you're IGNORING all the big games because you demand that only one type of game can satisfy what they need. You also IGNORE the fact that not every game gets announced 6 months + before release. You're also IGNORING big selling games, simply because they will be on another system, like the upcoming dragon's crown by vanillaware, per. Face it, vic, You're NOT making a point here that Vita is in trouble. You're making a point that Vita needs what YOU think it needs, based on evidence which hasn't been historically proven!

And this is the very reason people say that your OP is biased. It's because the metric doesn't make any sense. For instance the wii. The wii was doing great so long as nintendo made games for it. Everyone said, "yeah but it doesn't have any third party exclusives". Don't let Rol's commentary sway your thinking when HE'S ONE of those people who said third parties don't support the wii with good games, AS I DID MYSELF. BUT, the wii didn't NEED third party games, it just would have helped when they themselves STOPPED MAKING GAMES.

You're even ignoring the whole crossbuy incentive. It's an idea that if someone simply buys a vita, they will be able to play those ported games for FREE. No, there is a LOT, you are missing in your metrics.