gergroy said:
Kasz216 said:
Waste...
I think the middle class generally looks at people on welfare who "game the system", $600,000 ash trays for submarines, 50,000 toileat seats and believe there is enough systematic waste that can clear the government budget sheet well.
Combined with the elimination of various rich people and company deductions. I don't think they so much favor tax increases, but are for all kinds of crazy often times made up tax deductions that various people think the rich have.
Like how somehow if you donate money to charity you pay less in combined charity+taxes then you would of in just taxes, because they don't know how the graduating levels tax system works because they often have botique tax accountants/just don't understand how charity deductions work because they haven't donated that much.
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Are there really examples of this kind of waste in the government or is this just an old exageration that has been picked up as the truth? I hear this all the time, but I have never actually seen any kind of news about this other than the $20 muffin dispute a year or so ago and even that was an exageration for political reasons.
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Couldn't say... all i know is a lot of the middle class thinks this way.
Ironcially thanks to Al Gore... who complained about how expensive and wasteful some things were due to extensive government regulations. I believe he said that government ashtrays had something like 10 pages worth of regulation.
It's kinda funny how quickly things have shifted on some non core issues.
Al Gore complained about social security being a fraud for higher government spending., and that we needed to reform it so it was in a "locked box." While Bush (and SNL) thought he was crazy. Now Democrats call people crazy for suggesting there is a problem with it.
He was actually for shrinking government and decentralization too. (Though so was Bush... though Gore pointed out how Bush actually had a history of expanding government when he was gov.)