Final-Fan said: mike_intellivision said: Actually, there are those who say the PS3 is a good investment as a BR-DVD player because it can be updated to Profile 2.0 -- something that not available for all existing players. Mike from Morgantown That's what I've heard too.

 

Main advantage is that updating the Blue Ray firmware is painless thanks to online connectivity.

In traditionnal players the process is usually more complex and requires you to be more tech savy.

@ Untamoi

That's incorrect. A 2x Blu-Ray drive (25 and 50 GB) rotates slower but reads more data per second on average (6.8 GB Dual Layer) 360 DVD.

Regarding read speed 2x PS3 Blu-Ray vs 360 DVD:

"Entire Blu-ray Disk is read at 9MB/s.

12x DVD-Rom Drive SL (9.25MB/S-15.85MB/s(AVG ~8x(10.57MB/s) DL (4.36MB/s-10.57MB/s(AVG ~6x(7.93MB/s)
SL(DVD-5) 12x Max (5-12x Full CAV) - Constant Angular Velocity (Speed Varies from edge to edge)
DL(DVD-9) 8x Max (3.3-8x Full CAV) - Constant Angular Velocity (Speed Varies from edge to edge)

SL DVD is 1.57MB/s > SL Blu-ray
DL DVD is 1.07MB/s < SL Blu-ray

Majority of 360 games are on DVD-9."

Why the comparison with 2001? The end of 2001 represented only two holiday seasons for the PS2 (in its largest 2 regions), whereas the PS3 is going on its 3rd holiday this year.

Isn't 2002 / 2008 a more accurate comparison?

Groucho said: Why the comparison with 2001? The end of 2001 represented only a two Holiday seasons for the PS2, whereas the PS3 is going on its 3rd holiday this year. Isn't 2002 / 2008 a more accurate comparison?

 

You're hundreds of posts and several months late for this argument ...

Now this thread is mostly about watching CrazzyMan's prediction fall apart.

@ HappySquirrel

For once, agreed.

Watching his prediction fall apart is fun, to say the least. Every week this get's updated, I have a good chuckle.

So, how long does it have to go before people give up on the PS2 ~ PS3 sales idea? Even ignoring the massive difference on when the consoles launched in each territory (if you make PS2 launches the same time frame as PS3, then the PS2 is at ~12m more than the PS3) the PS3 is still a good distance behind the PS2 and the trends clearly show the PS2 had a much faster growth from this point on.

Anywho, carry on.

Considering, that there were many people predicting 19 mln. LTD by the end of 2008.. yeah, prediction falls, but not mine. =))

Anyway, 15 mln. per year is a bad number or 14 mln. per year is a bad number? =)) It still almost 2 times more, then x360 did on it`s 2nd year. =]

It`s ONLY 1 mln. behind from 16 mln. total.
And that is after selling for 8 months.


@Groucho, READ the 1st post and you will find why. =)

superchunk said: So, how long does it have to go before people give up on the PS2 ~ PS3 sales idea? Even ignoring the massive difference on when the consoles launched in each territory (if you make PS2 launches the same time frame as PS3, then the PS2 is at ~12m more than the PS3) the PS3 is still a good distance behind the PS2 and the trends clearly show the PS2 had a much faster growth from this point on. Anywho, carry on.

15 pages ago, someone as smart as you said this.

And here we are 15 pages later.

madskillz said: outlawauron said: madskillz said: Fastrabbit09 said: crazy's problem is that he has a viewpoint (ps3 will do well) and searches out data that can support it the better method is to look at the data and draw conclusions from it looking at all the data out there wouldn't lead someone to conclude that ps3 is gonna pwn It's called propaganda. To see propaganda in action, tune in to FOX News. Or CNN. Or MSNBC. I could go on ..... what was the point of that? Propaganda is presenting a certain slant on news - presenting it from one viewpoint. That's not news - and FOX does an excellent job on that. News is  presenting all the facts, whether they're nice or horrible. And why do the rest of the networks and most media consider FOX a joke? It's so far to the right it's going left ...

Most media are threatened by FOX News because it does so well in the ratings. Most media do not like Fox News' approach because most media are too far to the left.

OT: I think this holiday season will settle the order of the consoles this gen, and their fates. Let's just wait and see.

Why are all the ps3 haters coming out now saying(acting like) the ps3 is a failure? thats so 2007.....i thought by now only fanboys said that?( oh wait) wooped de do! the ps3 is is under the ps2 in sales this point in time....ummm so? its still selling is it not? its still on track to sell 19 to 20 mill by the end of 2008 is it not? it selling faster than the 360 in the same time frame is it not? if the ps3 is a failure then the 360 is $%$........you guys need to stop it with this ps3 is in troulble BS, no really please stop.