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binary solo on 01 September 2012

Dang! was hoping a link to an article about tech specs being leaked about PS4/720. And all we get is some rant from a Ninty fan about how gfx are MS and Sony's only weapon in the nexgen warz.

Lame is lame.



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richardhutnik on 01 September 2012
Mr Khan said:
I'm putting this thread on the "derailment watch list," which is to say, let's be careful here people, hmm?

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cyberninja45 on 01 September 2012
MDMAlliance said:
cyberninja45 said:
MDMAlliance said:
I honestly doubt that the successor of the 360 and PS3 will be "much more powerful" than the WiiU. One reason is because there's no way to gauge what "much more powerful" means unless you put it into technical terms. When I think "much more powerful," I think 6-8 times more powerful. I do not think it will be 6-8 times more powerful than the Wii U when the Wii U is already as good as confirmed to be more powerful than the PS3 and 360 as it is. Not only this, but there is a user here who constantly actually makes some good sense when talking about this issue.

1) Making a system more powerful requires more investment on both Microsoft/Sony and the developers for the system, which means much more money spent. This isn't a good idea considering their financial loss history and how it will just keep on going unless they do something about it.

2) Making a system more powerful not only costs more money for the companies, but will drive the costs up for the system. If the Wii U ends up being something like $349.99, then the "much more powerful" system will end up being "much more expensive" as Nintendo has started going with the trend of making their systems cheaper for what you get with your money.

3) When you use more power in a system, the system exhausts more heat. Withstanding more heat means providing better cooling and higher quality materials to keep the system from damaging. In some cases, the power would be nearly impossible to cool down to a proper temperature unless a really expensive cooling system were put into it. This would mean bulking up the system, driving up costs, and more potential for malfunctions resulting in lower ratings (and lower ratings means less people willing to go out and buy one)

4) The graphics now are already nearing a cap to where we can't tell the difference, and the only places where we can really improve a lot on are things like AI.

I am aware of the financial situation of sony and all the technical parameters. But that is not the issue, its about keeping their games relevant to the gamers.


Sony may be a really large company but as it is, Sony is laying off many of its workers to keep it from losing too much revenue.  It is very much an issue and pricing of their system fits into this.  Power isn't everything and isn't the driving force that sells a system, as you see from the PS2 and the initial sales of the PS3 (it being powerful yet selling horribly).  Also, you only addressed a single point out of the four points I made that pretty much happen all at once when making decisions about these stuff.

Your points are correct, well as far as our knowledge of developing a console goes, I was not trying to disagree with you. Its  more of a hypothectical situation where they have to no matter what, because of the games they produce.



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cyberninja45 on 01 September 2012

I see many people taking offense to the"shallow gameplay" but thing is this happens to many games and console progression.

Lets take an example of one of my favourite games Starfox64, this game is absoulte fun for me to play this day but I would be lying to myself if didn't admit the gameplay was shallow, its an onrails plane shooter after all. Now look at where this left nintendo with this franchise to this day they can't seem to come up with proper sequels to the game. They tried changing the gameplay (Sf adventures) but it didn't play like a sf game. They just can't or don't know how to improve the game (because of its shallow gameplay)

I see this as the same problem .ms and sony will face with their games, stagnation, this comes about by the focus on story and so on in a game ( a good story could be told on any console using any genre) for those who proclaim that.



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Chuva on 01 September 2012

We know nothing about the next generation consoles of MS and Sony...I think it's way too early to be sure of anything.



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Andrespetmonkey on 02 September 2012
Chuva said:
We know nothing about the next generation consoles of MS and Sony...I think it's way too early to be sure of anything.

I know it's largely speculation, but I enjoy speculating :P



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