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lol, it is too early to give it up. Look at what happened to the PS3, back in 2006-2007 everyone was spelling its doom and today it is a very well stabilished console. Not marketleader but easily the best console for many players.

The worst part of a console cycle is its launch, where it is most expensive, has few games, is least known.

Holidays are coming, big titles are coming for the Vita, it will do just fine. If all worst comes to worst, Sony can still drop its price.

Not all is lost. It sold 8.8k units in Japan last week, this week it sold 11K. It went up without any new releases. Compare it to the Xbox 360 who sold not even 1K and you see it's not as bad as people are saying.



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stu_ said:
I wouldnt say dead, in trouble yes, but in a world as fast changing as the mobile gaming sector its still too early to say. Plus i doubt it would be as easy for sony to kill of a system as it was for sega with the dreamcast. A lot of early vita adopters are likely to be PS3 owners and therefore they risk alienating some of their fanbase if they kill it off this soon.


Agreed but killing a system that is hardly selling to focus on more fruitful projects is more important than alienating a few early adopters who WILL still support Sony when it releases it's PS4.  It'll be more unproductive to waste money and resources on a system that obviously has failed (sorry this is what I see, it might be diffrent for someone else) than it is to concentrate on what is currently successful and thus have a succesful return in order to allocate proper resources to projects that may bear fruit.  Case in point is the HP tablet, a great system but just such a failure in sales.



Xxain said:
PSV has no focus. Sony Really screwed up. Biggest mistake was cutting Youngsters out of the equation. Thats the biggest market for handheld. Then want 18-25 year olds.. who mostly likely would choose a Ipad/phone over Vita. Then its aimed at console gamers who want a console quality xxperience *eyeroll* okay... so play on consoles, like they will. Nobodies gonna stop playing CoD on consoles to play on Vita.

So where do they go? Vita aint dead yet, but it will be without a focus


They acknowlodged that and will try to change the focus, acording to that German Sony guy (the 2.2 mi guy)

OT: Vita is not dead. We're on a waiting game for two things - that might either save or kill it (to me the between is not possible)

1 - Plans for the west have been said - and they're pretty aggressive (big games, bundles and cross-buy). The waiting game here is if they work or not.

2 - TGS - I don't think this year can be saved in Japan, but dependind on TGS, next year could. Must be fantastic at minimum. Maybe with a great TGS the saving can start even in 2012 (MH3G kinda thing)

I'll only declare Vita dead after two things

1 - Holidays in the west is a total flop.

2 - The saving in japan is not on course after Monster Hunter 4 hits the 3DS



Sensei said:
lol, it is too early to give it up. Look at what happened to the PS3, back in 2006-2007 everyone was spelling its doom and today it is a very well stabilished console. Not marketleader but easily the best console for many players.

The worst part of a console cycle is its launch, where it is most expensive, has few games, is least known.

Holidays are coming, big titles are coming for the Vita, it will do just fine. If all worst comes to worst, Sony can still drop its price.

Not all is lost. It sold 8.8k units in Japan last week, this week it sold 11K. It went up without any new releases. Compare it to the Xbox 360 who sold not even 1K and you see it's not as bad as people are saying.


The problem is that Sony is not the same Sony that launched the PS3 in terms of financial health.  Secondly, the PSV lacks the developer support selling such a mediocre amount of systems even compared to how the PS3 launched; unless Sony is willing to throw money at developers to make games that have a risk of losing money or little chance of return. 



Sensei
"Not all is lost. It sold 8.8k units in Japan last week, this week it sold 11K. It went up without any new releases."

i have no problem with your comment and i believe its too soon to call it dead, but that made me laugh....seriously? those are awful numbers dude



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Mr Khan said:
Xxain said:
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TGS will tell...

Wasn't Gamescom a big enough bang? Cross Buy, Killzone, Tearaway, CoD bundle - you think they're not out of announcements after E3 and that?



superchunk said:

It should have been a smartphone. However, you can't claim any final word until after holidays.


I totally agree with you superchunk, however PSV is what it is.  Thus my arguement to drop the sytem and re-release it as a smartphone or something. It's sales of 2M units after nearly a month of release shows that no one (other than early adopters) will really miss the sytem.  I agree that the PSV second holiday will make or break the system.  However, seeing how it is currently selling I don't see how it will all of a sudden start selling bullocks even with the proper game.  I could be wrong though.



I would agree with killing the vita off if the sales didnt pick up in the future, but i think its still too early to say that the sales will never pick up and to kill it off at this point. I simply think that it would create a lot of bad press for sony, that after couple of years they cant afford. However unfortunately i dont know enough about sonys financials to be able to give a valid opinion of whether sony are better off cutting their losses to save money immediately or if there is money to be made realistically in the future.



Soleron said:
Mr Khan said:
Xxain said:
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TGS will tell...

Wasn't Gamescom a big enough bang? Cross Buy, Killzone, Tearaway, CoD bundle - you think they're not out of announcements after E3 and that?

problem is, that those won't expand the PSV's market to those who didn't buy the system already.



They didn't do a price cut for memory card nor for the system and didn't drop their big games so how can it be dead for now when this 3 thing happen and sale dosn't approove then it will be dead.



PS4 - over 100 millions let's say 120m
Xbox One - 70m
Wii U - 25m

Vita - 15m if it will not get Final Fantasy Kingdoms Heart and Monster Hunter 20m otherwise
3DS - 80m