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Final-Fan said:
Linkzmax said:
Why'd you cut out the part about not liking me, yet my vote cutting you more than others?

No further defense on the pocketing wiibox front?

You have a vote on nen for something that wasn't even a contradiction at the time and was cleared up as a misunderstanding, and I'm the one lacking justification for a vote?

1.  Because I didn't address it.  SInce it's apparently an actual important thing and not borderline-throwaway like I was considering it, I'll say that yours cuts more because of what a good player you normally are.  It was a visceral response, which occurred in spite of my budding distrust of you.  It probably was made possible by the fact that I had largely taken my attention off you (not permanently but at the time), so I was like "WTF Linkz is voting me now?"  

2.  Not really, no.  Buddying with wiibox was the furthest thing from my mind when I made the initial comment and I refuse to be held responsible for any feelings he may have developed on the subject due to the ensuing discussion.  I have been pressed on this at length and I don't think I have any more to add on the subject since there really isn't that much to say.  

3.  It was too a contradiction, and that is such blatant deflection.  

1. Sorry, I will try to get on every day so you don't lose focus of me again.

2. If it were radish making those posts, you'd have voted for him or chided him in some manner. True or false?

3. Day is slow = not many people talking. I don't want to vote yet, I'd rather wait until more people are talking. The "contradiction" only exists because you implied the second post was nen not wanting to do anything and instead have someone else do something. And as for not responding when dared to give an opinion: his very next post outlined his suspects: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4700866

 

And no I'm not satisfied with your points, but there's little reason to continue saying one thing while you say another. I still consider you most likely to be scum. My vote isn't moving unless someone takes that position or someone else I think is scum can be lynched and you aren't going to get enough votes.



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supermario128 said:

Sacrifice myself to save a more powerful role? Like suggesting to mafia that they should kill me, right? I have already done so. If there are "many situations" then please enlighten me as to what they are, because I don't know how sacrificing myself as a lynch will save anybody. I already said my only goal is to help town win, so I'm not sure what you are getting at.

Final-Fan said:
Not sure whether to vote Stefl or Linkz. I'll probably vote one of them tomorrow sometime.

Is there any reason why I am not an option, or do you fully believe I am a miller?

Because mafia are obviously going to follow the suggestions of townies.  Are you being stupid on purpose?  Or is it just that you are mafia and suck at putting yourself in town's shoes?  Help me out here; it's been a while since I've played with you, I think.  

If votes accumulate against you I wouldn't object to lynching you; I'd much rather lynch you than No Lynch.  I don't have full confidence in your claim.  But I am more suspicious of Linkz than I am of you, and I'd rather lynch a lurker than a miller.  



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Linkzmax said:

 

1. Sorry, I will try to get on every day so you don't lose focus of me again.

2. If it were radish making those posts, you'd have voted for him or chided him in some manner. True or false?

3. Day is slow = not many people talking. I don't want to vote yet, I'd rather wait until more people are talking. The "contradiction" only exists because you implied the second post was nen not wanting to do anything and instead have someone else do something. And as for not responding when dared to give an opinion: his very next post outlined his suspects: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4700866

4. And no I'm not satisfied with your points, but there's little reason to continue saying one thing while you say another. I still consider you most likely to be scum. My vote isn't moving unless someone takes that position or someone else I think is scum can be lynched and you aren't going to get enough votes.

1.  Is that supposed to mean something?  

2.  I doubt radish would exhibit the tenacity you've shown.  But yeah, I'd probably have voted him, because the only reason I haven't voted you is the fear of losing a big town asset if you're just grossly mistaken and highly off your game for some reason.  

(And since I suppose you actually mean my posts, I think I would take the stance that the initial post was not remotely deserving of the attention it's gotten.  I would not chide radish any more than the ones keeping the discussion afloat.)  

3.  That's a decent point; sometimes I forget that many other players practically have a phobia of putting votes out there without being 90% confident.  



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theprof00 said:
Linkzmax said:
And your argument is crap. So again, unless you're just going to spurgeon us, claim.

I see that sarcasm flew right over your head.

Unfortunately, you never let out much. The only thing that you ever slip on is your attitude. This just isn't town Linkz.

Your suspects are all bland, you follow someone who I consider suspicious, and you haven't even followed my theory but rather prefer me to claim first. You have no intention at looking at the facts that I've presented against nen, including my argument with him in which he claims I twisted his words where there is no such evidence, and where I said that he turned on noc after enough people were getting on noc's case. The latter implies someone who is trying to defend a townie as scum but seeing all the momentum, switches sides. He defends because it is in his best interest to appear town and not be on a townie lynch, but can't help himself when presented with a safe opportunity to do so.

As town, shouldn't you be considering evidence no matter how trivial? Furthermore, nen's change doesn't even occur fluidly. It starts from Post restricted and as more and more pill posts come in, he goes to annoyed, then to "never sign up when noc is playing", to voting for him. There is no real evolution in thought there for a townie who honestly suspects a scum, only a person who is LOOKING to put a vote on someone who is garnering a lot of negative attention.

So why can't you tell me what you think of that? Instead, you goad me to claim. Sure my evidence on you is weak, but for me it's enough. Nen on the other hand, I believe is quite a reasonable suspect with good evidence.

I love when you bring up my attitude as some kind of tell, especially when it couldn't be more obviously contradicting to what you're saying.

I'm following nen onto FF? I followed your theory. Yet I refused to claim as a human or whatever and you did not group me into your mafia list, but instead your undecided one. The fact is your theory is meaningless. As I said, I have past games to fall on with regards to thinking nen is town. It's not a matter of his behavior or attitude matching, but it definitely makes him the best town read I have on anyone. Thus his stance on noctis day one is meaningless to me.

If you want to convince me of anything, it's going to require a claim. Plain and simple. In fact, if you want others to follow you onto nen you're going to have to do better, because I'm going to continue standing in your way.



Final-Fan said:
Final-Fan said:
Linkzmax said:

Reading FF's opinion on SAK throughout the round doesn't do him any favors though.

Dafuq



OK Linkz, you seem to have ignored this so let me spell it out for you: This was meant as a prod for elaboration. My opinion on SAK was that the mod should take some kind of action to remove deadweight from the game, and that if he were to refuse to do so we should take it upon ourselves to do so while it was still feasible to spend a lynch on that sort of thing. This opinion is both good pro-town play and ENTIRELY consistent with my play from previous rounds.

So what "dafuq" are you doing suggesting that that opinion implicates me as scum?

It's quite easy for anyone to read through the thread, ctrl+f your posts and see everytime you mention SAK. It's not OMG he's damned! It's merely not doing you any favors. As in I agree with mario's point that you tried to look good when it was apparent a replacement wouldn't be coming.



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Final-Fan said:
Linkzmax said:

 

1. Sorry, I will try to get on every day so you don't lose focus of me again.

2. If it were radish making those posts, you'd have voted for him or chided him in some manner. True or false?

3. Day is slow = not many people talking. I don't want to vote yet, I'd rather wait until more people are talking. The "contradiction" only exists because you implied the second post was nen not wanting to do anything and instead have someone else do something. And as for not responding when dared to give an opinion: his very next post outlined his suspects: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4700866

4. And no I'm not satisfied with your points, but there's little reason to continue saying one thing while you say another. I still consider you most likely to be scum. My vote isn't moving unless someone takes that position or someone else I think is scum can be lynched and you aren't going to get enough votes.

1.  Is that supposed to mean something?  

2.  I doubt radish would exhibit the tenacity you've shown.  But yeah, I'd probably have voted him, because the only reason I haven't voted you is the fear of losing a big town asset if you're just grossly mistaken and highly off your game for some reason.  

(And since I suppose you actually mean my posts, I think I would take the stance that the initial post was not remotely deserving of the attention it's gotten.  I would not chide radish any more than the ones keeping the discussion afloat.)  

3.  That's a decent point; sometimes I forget that many other players practically have a phobia of putting votes out there without being 90% confident.  

1. Yes, I'm saying you lost your suspicion of me because I wasn't around for a couple of days.

2. Not radish posting what I'm saying.(nor you) If radish had made Wiibox's first couple of posts would you have said "good effort".



And let's be real. You guys can pretend to push a lynch for me all you want, but I'm easily the top choice for mafia's intended kill tonight.



Final-Fan said:

Because mafia are obviously going to follow the suggestions of townies.  Are you being stupid on purpose?  Or is it just that you are mafia and suck at putting yourself in town's shoes?  Help me out here; it's been a while since I've played with you, I think.  

If votes accumulate against you I wouldn't object to lynching you; I'd much rather lynch you than No Lynch.  I don't have full confidence in your claim.  But I am more suspicious of Linkz than I am of you, and I'd rather lynch a lurker than a miller.  

I don't think anyone is ever stupid on purpose, no. Did you really say it has been "a while" since we played together? We have played the last 6 games together, have we not? -_-

Obviously lynching a lurker instead of a miller is the way to go. Why would you ever lynch a miller unless you thought they were lying about their claim. Honestly, it would be stupid for mafia to claim miller on day one.




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Linkzmax said:
Mario, have you given your thoughts on me?

I was never good at reading you. The first game I played with you I thought you were mafia when you weren't. The second game I thought you were mafia again so I concluded that you were not mafia because of that. The 3rd game we were both mafia which really didn't help me because it is easy to judge posts when you already know who someone is. The 4th game doesn't matter. The 5th game I was mafia while you weren't, which doesn't really help again. That brings us to game 6, or my 5th game with you.

You pretty much play the same whether you are mafia or not. So far I am leaning town for you, but I didn't like how you quickly accepted my role claim and quickly went after FF the moment I did. It could be that you are trying to get on my good side and accepted my claim so fast because you are scum and are now going after FF because he is innocent, therefore going for a mis-lynch. Or you could be town and believed my claim because it would be the logical thing to do (scum claiming miller on day one is laughable) and are suspicious of FF because you genuinely think he is scum (as do I).

Like I said, I believe you are town, so far.




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