spurgeonryan said: Winston zeddeman. |
I'm sorry I doubted you spurge. I should've just had faith.
spurgeonryan said: Winston zeddeman. |
I'm sorry I doubted you spurge. I should've just had faith.
PG7
Linkz: What are your thoughts on me; SM: "im not good at reading you. Don't like how you accepted my roleclaim so easily and went after FF. Could be trying to get on Mario's good side, to force a mislynch on FF. I think you are town"
Mario talks about miller meta. It is true that it's very risky...but perhaps he had a backup plan?
Asks nen, "are you pro-town", evidently to help my questioning.
Nen says "since you asked so nicely, and answered my question earlier". (Well, how nice of him)
Linkz clarifies that he went after FF before mario did.
Weird post by spurge. Eh.
Mario's scum list: FF, Pezus, Baalz
Mario's town list: Nen, Linkz, Spurge, Prof, Wiibox, Noctis
Not sure: Mantle, stefl
A little bit sour of a list. 2 scum are town. No evidence or even attention given to half of the town list, not sure's are possibly townie as well.
Mario says again that scum would have asked for SAK to be modkilled.
Baalz asks wat he would do if counterclaimed. Says he would have exposed it for the lie it is.
Still thinks pezus is scum
Tells me I could be right about nen and linkz being scum, definitely wrong about him.
I say there are some possible reasons why I don't trust the claim. One is if they can recruit, 2 is that he seems connected to suspects, 3 He stands out.
Reply is "and how do you know they can recruit" (it was just a theory), says he's going after who he thinks is scum, reasons why he may be standing out. (seems like an OK post)
PG8
Doesn't like recruitment talk (even though I said it was a far off theory). Says it is stupid. Says mafia probably have 3 members left. Thinks mantle recruited me. 95% sure nen is town.
Serial killer nen. Says "he played as town". (I still wonder how that's any different from acting town this round)
Tells me to prove I'm voteless -by voting- even after I said it carried consequences
Tries to tell me what my role is "voteless simply means the mod will ignore your vote". (while I agree, it's obviously not the circumstance here. I said it carried penalties and he's goading me into it)
Says "how you can't see that Nen is town is beyond me" (Wait, didn't he just say "you might be right about nen and linkz like a page ago? Also the 95% thing a few posts back. Big change from "you might be right about nen")
He has good argument against my role, but what can I say? Seems like a cheap shot. Votes me.
He's now inclined to believe my claims. Says it kind of makes sense now with baalz explanation. Votes for stefl.
PG9
Suspects: Pezus, Baalz, FF, maybe prof. Feels linkz scanned nen, but says it was obvious anyway. @Prof, Which one first, pezus or baalz?
Votes Pezus, using the framework that Pezus tried to frame me (prof). Seems like a classic misdirection technique to me.
Unvotes Pezus, votes Baalz. Still no reason for pezus being scum.
Calls wiibox a vanilla townie
"We are not lynching nen wiibox or stefl"
Some talk about stuff. Nothing important really.
After 9, I actually got a slightly more town read. Lot more to read through. Goddamn you post a lot.
theprof00 said: Well that's up to page 7. Mario talks too much. |
To be fair, I'm sure there were others who have talked even more than I did. With your more recent posts I genuinely think that you think I am scum, as opposed to you saying I am scum because you are actually scum. This helps to make you town in my eyes because it doesn't sound artificial at all, if that makes sense to you. I just wish you could accept my claim and move on to finding actual scum. I said I wouldn't get lynched no matter what and I meant it. No, I am not anything else other than what I already claimed. Why would a governor claim miller?
Who did you say your first choice to lynch was?
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Lot more to read through for Mario, but it's possible I can remove him from the suspect list for now and put him in neutral. I still think he's wrong about nen though, so my current list would be nen, wonk, stefl. One of these is scanned by linkz.
Also, it's likely that Linkz did indeed scan the right person (not bussed), because I think the likely move would have been to bus SAK with the target, Radish. A player who is likely going to be modkilled, or is worthless is a good risk in switching. Protects from being watched or tracked to an extent, is confusing, and removes all protection. In this case, Linkz would 100% of the time get a town read on his target because it is likely they bussed SAK. The alternative would be they bussed nen (or stefl) with radish, but why possibly implicate one of those two? Furthermore, Linkz would have gotten a scum read had they bussed.
What I'm trying to say is that with a busser, you don't bus two townies because that is double the chance to get caught by a watcher, and a chance to get blocked. So, you switch mafia with the townie and target the mafia.
supermario128 said:
To be fair, I'm sure there were others who have talked even more than I did. With your more recent posts I genuinely think that you think I am scum, as opposed to you saying I am scum because you are actually scum. This helps to make you town in my eyes because it doesn't sound artificial at all, if that makes sense to you. I just wish you could accept my claim and move on to finding actual scum. I said I wouldn't get lynched no matter what and I meant it. No, I am not anything else other than what I already claimed. Why would a governor claim miller? Who did you say your first choice to lynch was? |
A governor is unlynchable. It is almost the exact scenario as baalz' miller claim. Anyhoo, it makes no difference. Your good natured response to my read is welcoming, and again, I got a better town read between pages 7 and 9. Especially with the "don't tell me what to do" portion followed by the smiley face.
Anyway, like I said, my top three for the moment are wonk, nen, stefl.
Stefl is vanilla? Fat chance. But possible...still possible.
Nen is .....I don't know wtf nen is. I certainly don't think he's town.
Wonk? Now, Baalz I felt good about, but into day 2 it started to sag. Wonk came in and seems better, but I'm at a neutral with him.
I swear, this is probably one of the most difficult mafia's there's been in a while. Still, we have 2 lynches ahead of us, so no reason to panic. If there are only 2, then we have 3.
"Serial killer nen. Says "he played as town". (I still wonder how that's any different from acting town this round)"
Obviously a serial killer is still trying to hunt down the mafia. You can't fake something like that. Playing as mafia, you are not going to hunt down yourself.
"Says "how you can't see that Nen is town is beyond me" (Wait, didn't he just say "you might be right about nen and linkz like a page ago? Also the 95% thing a few posts back. Big change from "you might be right about nen")"
I said 95% for a reason. I didn't say 100%. I give myself 5% just in case I am wrong; I can say I wasn't completely wrong. :P
Keep going though, this is very entertaining.
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Oh and when I say "I'm at neutral with Baalz/wonk" that usually indicates scum to me. If someone is too hard to read for me, it usually means scum.
theprof00 said: Stefl is vanilla? Fat chance. But possible...still possible. I swear, this is probably one of the most difficult mafia's there's been in a while. Still, we have 2 lynches ahead of us, so no reason to panic. If there are only 2, then we have 3. |
OK. I'll accept you and Spurge as town along with Wiibox and Nen. I accepted Nen as town very early on day 1 because of these posts, but I also kept in the back of my mind that he could be mafia saying that to get on my good side. Thus the 5% I left myself with. I still think he is town though. However, I would like him to role claim along with Mantle. There is no use in keeping it a secret anymore when they are the only two who have not claimed already. If not, their names should be just fine.
That leaves Mantle, Stefl, Noctis, and Wonk as the people that could be scum. If Noctis is telling the truth then that leaves Stefl, Wonk, and Mantle.
The more I think about the weirder (more weird?) it is that Stefl is the only vanilla. Wonk comes in and is raring to go, but to do anything other than that would seem odd. Also, his role is pretty rare, but so are a lot of other people this round. Like I said, I want Mantle to role claim so I can be more sure about him... At any rate, Stefl should be the first to go.
unvote
vote: Stefl
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Stefl is one of the likely scanned, so I'm not sure. Sure you can move your vote, but you might want to move it again shortly.
Anyhoo, I read back on round 41 and called nen an obvious townie when everyone else was on his ass. I'm sure I'd be able to tell town nen again, but maybe not? I just don't see it. Lots of wishiwashiness, doesn't go after really anyone.
Again, really don't see scum mantle. Maybe he's gotten amazing at the game, but I don't see what everyone is fussing over.
So i think town is: spurge, mantle, wiibox, noc
Neutral: mario
Scum: Wonk, stefl, nen
Correction, nobody was on his nen's ass. Just some people were poking at him.