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nen-suer said:
mantlepiecek said:
Besides I am not sure a scum can have a post restriction placed on him.

The variant we see here doesnt really affect the post content so this role (if exsist) can be either town or scum role imo.

Nen, what is this post about? The variant? Up to this point, noc doesn't say anything about the vote restriction. What are you talking about?



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NoCtiS_NoX said:
supermario128 said:
NoCtiS_NoX said:

Then you are dead wrong about me. Unless you are a scum.

Wait, so if I was scum I would be right about you? lol

I would like to believe your role claim, but I don't. Please help show me you are town. What are your thoughts on everyone? Who do you think is scum? Why is Prof defending you, while you just sit back?

1st :Let me clarify it. If you are town then you are dead wrong about me so if you are a scum then it's obvious why you are voting for me.

2nd: Then don't I told you guys the sooner you get rid of me the better. I won't even try to defend my self. Scum will benefit with me alive. 

 

The person that lInkz mentioned. 

Prof and baalz(wonk) either of the 2 and then Nen or mantle.

Interestingly enough noc comes to the same list I have (wonk nen mantle).

Also, I just re-read noc, and I can't for the life of me see him as mafia. There's just no way.
I had another lead, but it didn't turn out. There is often a role in werewolf called teen werewolf who has to write the word "werewolf" once per day. I thought it might be the same with the word ghost, but as it turns out, after day 1, I didn't see him say it again. Anyway, that was just a lead.



spurgeonryan said:
I do not get your reference. So... ok.

Spry for the love of God, stop wasting my time and post CONCISELY. Make 100% sure that anyone who reads your post will understand what you're talking about.

Walter Peck is a character in the first move who deactivates the ghostbusters vault (because he doesn't believe in ghosts) and mistakenly lets them all out. He is called dickless by Spangler, and Bill Murray says "yes, this man has no dick". It's in the damn video!



Mantle:

First four posts just asking some questions. Nothing huge.
Talks about the pills thing.
Start of the spurge argument. Spurge said "feeling about a post", mantle appropriately says "what post". I would ask the same, since it could end up as a slip if Spurge doesn't have the post. Spurge not much of a response, mantle fires again. Spurge says mantle twisted his words. Mantle fires again saying, "sure, while you're at it, show me where I twisted your words". Again spurge is evasive, saying "it's somewhere in the last three votes". Mantle pushes again. Spurge escalates to a vote. Mantle posts proof of no word twisting and asks again where the post is. Spurge continues saying it was twisting by saying "you left out the word "felt", yet mantle's point is "which post did you FEEL". Spurge then says mantle went crazy, but it seems more like mantle was pushing suspicion onto spurge, not being defensive. Spurge says mantle is bothering him, but mantle is very much in the right here. Is asked who his suspects are, he gives his town reads instead.

Mantle's townies: Linkz, radish, nen, noctis (Seems to be a pretty good list. Two are actually town, two are unproven)

Mario says mantle phreaked, but he really didn't. Mantle appeared as a townie trying to nail a scum (but might still be scum, who knows?)
Interestingly, nen also says mantle freaked. Mantle says, "why shouldn't I play seriously?"
Mantle questions Mario's scum list, but does say "why sak? He hasn't even posted much"
Linkz asks mantle why he thinks radish is town. Mantle says "mainly his posting style"

Comments in a big post
1. Prof and Linkz argument. Says leaning linkz town, and maybe town prof, or mafia prof.
2. Not happy with noc's participation
3. Spurge acting weird.
4. Nen's posts are neutral (I get the same feeling)
5. People he feels good about, mario for miller (but also points out the claiming drama), wiibox (says nothing much, but posts seem good).

Sak: either play or get replaced. Neutral on SaK. Says looks like genuine abscense and not lurking mafia.
Baalz:Neutral. Hard to read.
FF spurge could be a scum team, the way they act.

Suspects in general: prof, ff, spurge. Neutral: Baalz, nen, sak, stefl, noc. Likes mario, wii, linkz. (seems to be a pretty good list, imo) Some discrepancy of course, though.

Post about FF seeming suspicious continues 3-4 posts.

Gone for a while. Comes back with some questions, though few.
Doesn't like linkz' surety of nen being town "I honestly can't see why such surety". Still thinks linkz is town, but just overconfident town.
Can't see why I think nen is scum. Doesn't think the evidence holds up enough.
Says Baalz vs Mario is interesting. Doesn't see mario being scum

Asks mario what's with the 95% sure (of nen being town). Says nen is not so easy to read, ref; serial killer nen.

Comes back to vote Baalz day 3. Points to the Baalz last second vote of day 2 on stefl. Says it doesn't make sense that linkz would scan men scum yet vote nen, meaning baalz is wrong regarding his analysis.

FoS wiibox for inactivity.

Asks me how I KNOW wiibox is town. Points to my own and Linkz overconfidence. Says it isn't criticism.

Asks nen what he thinks of prof.
unvotes "baalz/wonk". Votes FF, his suspect.

Asks anyone who thinks mario is scum, "why? He's miller"

Says to spurge (who said if FF is town, we need to look at pezus and mantle), What if FF turns scum, will you finally realize that I'm town?

Spurge says mantle only comes in to defend himself and is inactive. Mant retorts that he's really not defending hmself against anything. Points out that spuge is tunnleing on him.

Spurge goes after him some more, mantle points out he's tunneling again. Says spurge has only gone after pezus, mantle, and prof.

 

 

After a re-read I really can't see mantle as being scum. I will take all the blame, but nothing about mantle says town. It almost feels like I wasted my time re-reading him. Almost. There were some interesting events that unfolded. Spurge was indeed tunneling, and it does indeed look to me like he's been tunneling three townies the whole game, and also hammered a townie. Doesn't look very good for spry, but at least spry has role claims to fall back on.

 

Hey spry are you the mustache man?



Spry what is your name please.



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theprof00 said:
Stefl- supposed vanilla. Was likely a target by Linkz
Baalz (wonk)- (cannot be targeted by town helpful roles)
Mantle- No claim
Mario- miller
Nen- no claim
Spry- Seemed to claim he was "dickless", which would indicate walter peck. Likely a townie role of some kind
Wiibox- The archbishop, priest role (cannot hammer vote)
Noc- pills, if he forgets his pills, he cannot vote

So, we have out of the players who's meta points at being town:
Spry- Town something. I'd like to see if he is Peck though.
wiibox- archbishop priest, town role
Noc 50% voter (and almost got himself in hot water day 1. Foolish if mafia)
Stefl- vanilla (also possible investigation)
Mario miller
Wonk- cannot be targeted by helpful roles.

Then leaves
Mantle
Nen (possibly investigated)

So yes, Mario, I AM going to go back over the people who are supposedly "cleared" because there aren't enough players.

I'd like nen to claim.

The people I see as possibly being scum are:
Wonk, Mario, Nen, stefl, mantle.

Just read mantle, doesn't appear mafia one bit. Neither does noc.

So for me it's down to wonk, mario, (one of stefl or nen).



spurgeonryan said:

I can agree with stefl. I wish he would not wait so long to talk.will have to see when the last time he was online.

Mario is kind of a long shot dontcha think?

Wonk could be a good read.

Nen always plays like scum.

The prof helps town more as scum than he does as town.

If everyone agrees on Stefl I would be happy with voting for him as well.

The only reason I can think of Prof going after me is that he is scum himself. I don't want to say that definitively yet, but he is also a good lynch option if Noctis is telling the truth. It could very well be Prof/ Stefl or Prof/ Mantle. He did say he wants Nen to claim, but he didn't mention anything about Mantle until after I said something.

Wonk is town. I'm pretty sure about that.

Nen doesn't always play like scum. His play as scum is obvious and much different from town.

Prof could definitely be scum, yes. He might be defending Noc because he knows Noctis is telling the truth while he is lying himself. What did you say your name was Prof?




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Mario:
PG1:
first post a summary, says linkz and prof seem town, pezus and wiibox not town
Talks about Peck, asks Baalz if he's mafia
Talks down jumper Noc "Town is definitely going to win this time" sounds a bit inauthentic
Says we're not lynching Noc because he is town

PG2:
Everyone should answer ghost or human. Says all players must be ghosts or humans. Even if possessing a human, they are still a ghost.
Linkz asks why mario thinks pezus is mafia. He responds that he has no real evidence, but still thinks he is.
When pezus says "seem like your [contradictory] townie self" Asks pezus how confident he is that mario (himself)is town.

(post spurge-mantle argument)
Says spurge seems town. Mantle seems overly defensive (I disagree). Tries to explain that you can't prove a feeling. (however, spry clearly said it was a post and fails to point out which one. Not even any kind of explanation of any kind. I strongly disagree with mario here)

PG3
Happy to lynch pezus, mantle, sak, or baalz (not a bad list. Pezus was town. I believe mantle is. Sak was mafia (though oddly, he only says sak, but not stefl who was also lurking, and baalz, who I have no idea of alignment)
Says they are in the order of most desirable (so, to me, that's townie, townie, mafia, ?) Not real implication here.
Tempted to roleclaim when spry accuses him of snappiness.
Says we would all benefit fro him claiming. Says he almost claimed in his first post. Will "stop hinting"
FF asks mario why sak and baalz are on his list. Says, Sak for being "ready for anything" and then doing nothing. Baalz for getting overly annoyed by simple questions.
Says "only one person needs to know about my role". Says "I feel I should have never brought this up in the first place. Just forget about it." (wait, weren't we better off knowing?)
Nen agrees about SaK. In response to Mario's drama claim "nobody likes an attention whore". Is nen trying to tell mario not to draw so much attention?
Mario says he doesn't need to question people to get reads, just needs to read people talking. Mantle counters that he hasn't questioned his suspects, so then he's confident with them lynching, also counters that SaK hasn't even posted enough for said "read" (also stefl was lurking)
Pezus asks Mario for reasons for wanting to lynch [pezus]. Mario says "because I think you are scum". Pezus counters "I asked for reasons"
Linkz has the same read on the suspect list order (town, town, mafia, town); says, "you're a miller aren't you".
Says stefl has an excuse for not posting. Thinks nen is town (no evidence) Says pezus might think mario is town for a more insidious reason. not sure on radish or ff. Thinks prof and noc is town (well at there's something right)
Won't confirm miller claim. Linkz says "if you don't question them they're less likely to talk, and mario gives in.
Under pressure from Linkz about his miller claim, suddenly mario votes SaK. Says no way to tell who is scum yet, will keep his "feelings" to himself.
Responds to linkz that he "changed his mind" about claiming.

PG4
Linkz pushes miller claim again. Says it doesn't make sense to be afraid of a night kill, and a lynch. Mario says this isn't helping us find scum. Linkz counters that it does help if mario is scum.
Mario caves in and claims miller, apologizes for acting like a newb miller.
Interesting post by Nen. Says "I have a question that I'd like to ask you, but I'll wait". He then avoids asking the question until Day 2, which I think is a bit strange. He was even asked to ask it, but says he changed his mind about asking. But then he asks on day 2. Was he waiting to talk to mario at night?
Mario is then gone from july 26 to 30. Keep in mind that nen said "noone likes an attention whore" and then mario is gone for 4 days almost (3 plus a night) after his miller claim.

PG6
Losing doc sucks, odd choice for kill
Now on day 2, mario asks nen what the question was that he wanted to ask.
Respons to Baal "no I will not be lynched this round"
Says nen has a "strong town vibe", pezus is a greta lynch option. Votes FF. Says "he is scum"
Nen interestingly shows up, and says "Oh what the heck, why are you a miller". Keep in mind that Nen was already asked to ask the question and said "no". I have a sick feeling there is some prompting in this.
Mario explains his character, doesn't give a name, and explains that it is why he said "humans vs ghosts". (I can't say this is suspicious for any reason, but it does *feel* like covering his bases.
Nen comes back to say "I trust your claim"
Mario picks out FF and pezus (post SAK modkill) and asks "why did you want him modkilled". Says it looks like FF and pezus were using reverse psychology. (seems unnecessarily complicated and spin-like) Says sorry if others said so too, but that they are his suspects.

**#$&*$&( WARNING*($&@$&
FF asks why Mario says "by any means necessary, saying it seems a bit anti-town. Mario repeats it using the same phrase saying he means it. FF asks why did you use that phrase in the first place.

I'll make sure this is nice and neat on a clean line.

Mario says "we will cross that road IF we come to it". - I want a full claim right now Mario. I call bullshit on you. You seem to be claiming Governor here.

Baalz then says Mario should've sac'd himself (throuhg night-kill) Mario says he tried. (I disagree)
Asks FF "Do you fully believe I am a miller"
FF responds saying Mario is still suspicious. Mario says "why would you ever lynch a miller unless you thought they were lying. It would be stupid to claim miller day one" (Actually, one scenario it wouldn't be stupid is if mafia had a godfather. It's too overpowered for there to be both a godfather and a miller in the same game. Therefore, a fake miller could conceivably happen.

Well that's up to page 7. Mario talks too much.









spurgeonryan said:
Maybe I just expecte more of mantle after all the hype that people gave him for how well he plays. I have not seen it. He has been mostly quiet and when not quiet he has been seemingly defensive.

I can agree with stefl. I wish he would not wait so long to talk.will have to see when the last time he was online.

Mario is kind of a long shot dontcha think?

Wonk could be a good read.

Nen always plays like scum.

The prof helps town more as scum than he does as town.

Why do you think I have a track record of being killed night one and two every game? Because I'm bad at town? No, I'm quite good at town.



supermario128 said:
spurgeonryan said:

I can agree with stefl. I wish he would not wait so long to talk.will have to see when the last time he was online.

Mario is kind of a long shot dontcha think?

Wonk could be a good read.

Nen always plays like scum.

The prof helps town more as scum than he does as town.

If everyone agrees on Stefl I would be happy with voting for him as well.

The only reason I can think of Prof going after me is that he is scum himself. I don't want to say that definitively yet, but he is also a good lynch option if Noctis is telling the truth. It could very well be Prof/ Stefl or Prof/ Mantle. He did say he wants Nen to claim, but he didn't mention anything about Mantle until after I said something.

Wonk is town. I'm pretty sure about that.

Nen doesn't always play like scum. His play as scum is obvious and much different from town.

Prof could definitely be scum, yes. He might be defending Noc because he knows Noctis is telling the truth while he is lying himself. What did you say your name was Prof?

Nope, it's because you're not worth trust yet. You've been tunneling pezus and ff all game (as shown by my posts), made some weird posts, were afraid to be killed as a miller even though millers haven't been killed in any of the last games, and have weird coincidences with nen, you also call him 95% town, which I find hard to believe, because he is playing like crap too.

I didn't mention Mantle because I already read him before and concluded town, but now that people have been removed I looked over the claims and there isn't any room for him not to be mafia. SO I re-read him, and again concluded town. Why you can't see that, I don't know.

You say nen's scum play is obvious? So you're using past rounds to judge him then? Someone already brought up a good point that nen was able to hide as an sk. you retorted that it was because he was playing town until the end. Why can he not be "playing (acting) town now"? I disagree.

I can not be scum, absolutely. I told you now three times, maybe more that I will remove myself tomorrow if it's a problem. Why so keen to lynch me? If I'm scum, then tomorrow you've got a free scum lynch with me, OR I remove myself. That's pretty much the best offer in mafia you will ever get. Then on top of that, you have all the reads from this point, and can just make your decisions then.

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