Whats a better question is why in the world are you so defwnsive against aa player who cant even vote.

Who are you talking to and who are you talking about?

You. ANd furthermore what's with all the defending of nen before Linkz started implying him to be town? You said you were 95% sure. Furthermore, I'm not sure linkz scanned nen anymore. He said he was so sure stefl was town, and also said he was loving noc for not voting stefl and hammering, and even said "If I'm wrong, I'll even vote myself tomorrow". So unless he was gifted with double touch, I'd like nen to claim before I move off of him. If he doesn't then fine. I just finished page 9, so I'll be back.

Stefl- supposed vanilla. Was likely a target by Linkz
Baalz (wonk)- (cannot be targeted by town helpful roles)
Mantle- No claim
Mario- miller
Nen- no claim
Spry- Seemed to claim he was "dickless", which would indicate walter peck. Likely a townie role of some kind
Wiibox- The archbishop, priest role (cannot hammer vote)
Noc- pills, if he forgets his pills, he cannot vote

So, we have out of the players who's meta points at being town:
Spry- Town something. I'd like to see if he is Peck though.
wiibox- archbishop priest, town role
Noc 50% voter (and almost got himself in hot water day 1. Foolish if mafia)
Stefl- vanilla (also possible investigation)
Mario miller
Wonk- cannot be targeted by helpful roles.

Then leaves
Mantle
Nen (possibly investigated)

So yes, Mario, I AM going to go back over the people who are supposedly "cleared" because there aren't enough players.

I'd like nen to claim.

The people I see as possibly being scum are:
Wonk, Mario, Nen, stefl, mantle.

Spry claimed dickless

I never did any defending for him. I simply expressed my view about him, which was that I am 95% sure he is town. I really don't care what Linkz said about him. The fact that he agreed with me is even more proof that he is town. I remember saying that he probably scanned Nen and then you strongly diagreed and said he scanned Stefl. Then you say he HAD to have scanned Nen and everyone agreed. Then you go back and say he had to have scanned Stefl. You can't even make up your own mind on the matter, but you expect us to listen to you? I have said he scanned Nen from the start and that is what he probably did. His read on Stefl was probably because he thought he was an uninterested townie because of his role. After Stefl claimed vanilla he said something like "as if it wasn't obvious". It was obvious because of his lurking/ lack of interest, not because he scanned him.

It would be funny if we are arguing over who he scanned when he might have been blocked. No one ever brought that point up. Also, it could be possible he scanned  someone guilty and didn't want to claim right away, but he would have made his choice clear in that scenario.

As to why I think Nen is town. He is playing like his usual town self. That is all the evidence I need.

Why not have everyone role claim then? Why leave Mantle out of this? Why stop there? Why doesn't everyone name claim as well. Everyone DOES have a name after all. Why not do a mass role claim and then just meta the game from there to see who is lying?

Yes, but Linkz also said "I can't believe people haven't figured out stefl's role already", pezus said appropriately "he's only made three posts".

I'm sorry if it seems like I'm trying to move my thoughts around but there is simply no ROOM for there to be two mafia.
From a purely role-belief understanding and two people unclaimed, the mafia would HAVE to be wonk and mantle. Hey, maybe they are, but the day is young and I'd like to examine everyone before that decision is made. We have two lynches possible ahead of us (with FF helping). We must hit one if there are three mafia. Four mafia now actually seems believeable as j0 made FF a permanent voter.

For reference as well, if we don't get one tonight, and town really wants to lynch me tomorrow, I will remove myself or you can lynch me. Either way, there will be another lynch tomorrow no matter what.

Mantle is under enough pressure already. We only need to hear from nen, or at least...we only need to hear from one of them. I am not one to ask everyone to claim because I prefer that roles be left in the dark. I do not trust linkz' read on nen. Period. I want him to claim. Otherwise, if you feel that strongly, let's get mantle to claim, because he's in quite hot water being one of the only two unclaimed and also under scrutiny by several players.

However, I'd like to finish my reads before either of those happen.

So you're not walter peck? Oh well ok then.