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killerzX on 29 June 2012
spaceguy said:
killerzX said:
Mr Khan said:
killerzX said:
so basically, we have been lied to. this is fraud essentially. we were told time and time again, the mandate is not a tax. taxes wont be raised on the middle class. barack obama lied to us, right to our faces.

this is the largest tax increase in the history of the world.

and guess who collects this this massive tax... the insurance companies, and the IRS is going to enforce it.

So today the sovereign nature of the individual wasn't just weakened; it was eviscerated.

They interpreted the fine as a tax, not the fees to companies themselves

yes, and its the biggest tax increase in history.

the american people have been suckered.



Actually the bill would allow small business to get even more tax deductibles then they do now. You have no clue what you are talking about, just stop why you are ahead. i don't agree with a lot about the bill but I'm reading more into. I run a small biz and will now see more back. So get your facts straight.

yeah and it hurts small business the most.

get your facts straight



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spaceguy on 29 June 2012
killerzX said:
spaceguy said:
killerzX said:
Mr Khan said:
killerzX said:
so basically, we have been lied to. this is fraud essentially. we were told time and time again, the mandate is not a tax. taxes wont be raised on the middle class. barack obama lied to us, right to our faces.

this is the largest tax increase in the history of the world.

and guess who collects this this massive tax... the insurance companies, and the IRS is going to enforce it.

So today the sovereign nature of the individual wasn't just weakened; it was eviscerated.

They interpreted the fine as a tax, not the fees to companies themselves

yes, and its the biggest tax increase in history.

the american people have been suckered.



Actually the bill would allow small business to get even more tax deductibles then they do now. You have no clue what you are talking about, just stop why you are ahead. i don't agree with a lot about the bill but I'm reading more into. I run a small biz and will now see more back. So get your facts straight.

yeah and it hurts small business the most.

get your facts straight


DId you here me or no? Did you see a tax accountent, I did. So you do not know what you are talking about. Just admit it , you don't.



bannedagain on 29 June 2012
spaceguy said:
killerzX said:
spaceguy said:
killerzX said:
Mr Khan said:
killerzX said:
so basically, we have been lied to. this is fraud essentially. we were told time and time again, the mandate is not a tax. taxes wont be raised on the middle class. barack obama lied to us, right to our faces.

this is the largest tax increase in the history of the world.

and guess who collects this this massive tax... the insurance companies, and the IRS is going to enforce it.

So today the sovereign nature of the individual wasn't just weakened; it was eviscerated.

They interpreted the fine as a tax, not the fees to companies themselves

yes, and its the biggest tax increase in history.

the american people have been suckered.



Actually the bill would allow small business to get even more tax deductibles then they do now. You have no clue what you are talking about, just stop why you are ahead. i don't agree with a lot about the bill but I'm reading more into. I run a small biz and will now see more back. So get your facts straight.

yeah and it hurts small business the most.

get your facts straight


DId you here me or no? Did you see a tax accountent, I did. So you do not know what you are talking about. Just admit it , you don't.

Actaully killer he is right.



bannedagain on 29 June 2012

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Kasz216 on 29 June 2012
killerzX said:
Mr Khan said:
killerzX said:
so basically, we have been lied to. this is fraud essentially. we were told time and time again, the mandate is not a tax. taxes wont be raised on the middle class. barack obama lied to us, right to our faces.

this is the largest tax increase in the history of the world.

and guess who collects this this massive tax... the insurance companies, and the IRS is going to enforce it.

So today the sovereign nature of the individual wasn't just weakened; it was eviscerated.

They interpreted the fine as a tax, not the fees to companies themselves

yes, and its the biggest tax increase in history.

the american people have been suckered.


That seems incredibly unlikely.  The tax increase part anyway.  I think at one point the income tax rate went up by like 50%.


As for the people who want single payer and are estatic about the ruling.... I'd suggest looking at what Howard Dean's opinion about the individual mandate being upheld meant for that.



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Kasz216 on 29 June 2012
Zappykins said:
Many people are satisfied with it, because it doesn't do enough. 'Obama Care' is almost exactly "Romney Care.' I think we all should have the same health care that the US Supreme Court and Congress get. It's still using a for-profit companies to manage people's health care - and making massive amounts of money for managers/CEO's in the process.

But glad this part is over.

Actually outside of being on the federal level, I believe Obamacare is less progressive then Romney care.



killerzX on 29 June 2012
bannedagain said:
spaceguy said:
killerzX said:
spaceguy said:
killerzX said:
Mr Khan said:
killerzX said:
so basically, we have been lied to. this is fraud essentially. we were told time and time again, the mandate is not a tax. taxes wont be raised on the middle class. barack obama lied to us, right to our faces.

this is the largest tax increase in the history of the world.

and guess who collects this this massive tax... the insurance companies, and the IRS is going to enforce it.

So today the sovereign nature of the individual wasn't just weakened; it was eviscerated.

They interpreted the fine as a tax, not the fees to companies themselves

yes, and its the biggest tax increase in history.

the american people have been suckered.



Actually the bill would allow small business to get even more tax deductibles then they do now. You have no clue what you are talking about, just stop why you are ahead. i don't agree with a lot about the bill but I'm reading more into. I run a small biz and will now see more back. So get your facts straight.

yeah and it hurts small business the most.

get your facts straight


DId you here me or no? Did you see a tax accountent, I did. So you do not know what you are talking about. Just admit it , you don't.

Actaully killer he is right.

no



theprof00 on 29 June 2012
killerzX said:
bannedagain said:

Actaully killer he is right.

no

We've been bamboozeled!

Seriously though, repeating anything that comes out of Sarah Palin's mouth.....just tragic



Plezbo on 29 June 2012
spaceguy said:
Hence why he turned it into a tax. Congress has the power to tax. 


Indeed they do, which is hilarious since President Obama got snippy with reporters when they asked him if the new health care laws would ammount to a tax.  Surprise! They do.  

Did you guys like the recession?  Hope so, because that shit is coming back.



theprof00 on 29 June 2012
Plezbo said:
spaceguy said:
Hence why he turned it into a tax. Congress has the power to tax. 


Indeed they do, which is hilarious since President Obama got snippy with reporters when they asked him if the new health care laws would ammount to a tax.  Surprise! They do.  

Did you guys like the recession?  Hope so, because that shit is coming back.

Paying a little more taxes (the uninsured), how does that equal recession pt 2?

Uninsured healthcare is one of the number one expenses that Americans find themselves in today, SIMPLY so that they CAN work. Then, people who are uninsured cause my preiums to go up. This saves me, a hardworking, responsible citizen money, and keeps those other workers working instead of staying home sick or disabled.

I actually will pay less in premiums this year, and I will be buying more along with it. Am I wrong about this?