mantlepiecek said:
Linkzmax said:
I've been over both of these points.
Mafia usually have a better grasp of the flavor split right off the bat, because they know what they have in common. I'd have to look back, but the only character hint I recall from day 1 was asking who is a female. After night 1 mafia would likely have come up with fake claims, which is why I thought prof's plan would be fruitless.
And jailkeeper is easily the strongest protection role that has been claimed. You're also ignoring the fact that a jailkeeper can block mafia's kill directly or any of their power. From a balance standpoint it's quite bad to put so much power in one person and have everyone else limited in comparison. You limit stronger roles and allow weaker ones to not carry such a burden.
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1) We have nerfed cops, it's comparatively difficult for us to find mafia easily.
2) When the jailkeeper blocks mafia, he is ensured un-nightkillability.
Which is why I don't think it unbalances the game at all. Look what it did on night 1, prof definitely missed his target, HE DID, and radish came forward and gave an explanation which wasn't required from mafia. Why should we assume radish just said that to look town, when there's no need of it, especially since all of this suspicion is risen because of role claiming in the first place.
Even stefl has unlimited uses btw.
Also FoS because you think nobody blocked prof on day 1. Somebody definitely did. Radish was the first to claim it.
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1) We don't know if there's any other investigators unclaimed
2) Hwat?
Your missing my point. If radish really is an unlimited town jailkeeper, then if he was lynched day 1 or killed at night early, the town would suffer quite a bit having only weak protection left.
How much experience do you have as mafia? Setting up a roleclaim is essential for them in a power heavy game. radish's hints Day 2 wouldn't force him to claim JK, but reactions would allow him to go with it if it seems safe. On the other hand, mafia are like vultures for such hint. Any scum worth their salt would have picked up on the hints and eliminated radish last night. radish may lack strong scumhunting and an ability to push a lynch, but jailkeeper is not a role mafia will just leave around.
As was pointed out, Stefl essentially has one use. A succesful save means his death.
Where did I ever say prof wasn't blocked? I'm only saying there's a lack of proof that prof was saved from a night kill. There's no watcher claiming multiple visiters on prof or a tracker following a shady individual to prof the same night.