DS - "I wasn't around for the last game... So this is a power heavy themed mafia game? goddamn..." Link. I want to take a closer look at this quote...

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hatmoza (sign up thread) - "Not a vanilla mafia game (i.e not limited to basic roles) Roles: Power Heavy. Powers will not be based on a success %." Link.

hatmoza (game thread) - "Not a vanilla mafia game (i.e not limited to basic roles) Roles: Power Heavy. Powers will not be based on a success %." Link.

hatmoza - "Spurge was Modkilled -Alarmist-" Link.

-entire discussion about potential cult because of Alarmist role being revealed, starting with this post (page 1) and going on for many posts/pages-

linkz - "With 21 players to start, I'd say a third-party or two teams again is pretty likely." Link (page 2).

stefl claims to be a bodyguard (non vanilla role) in x posts. Link. Link. Link. Also quoted or mentioned here, here, here (quoted by DS), here.

DS - "Nono, I ASKED if there WERE different roles in the town! Big difference there bud. People are talking about mafia "strong men", and the towns "body guard" and stuff like that... And what's up with that cult thing you're talking about?! Where I come from we have Mafia and townies. Period. There's no 3rd party and shit... The townies are either ordinary townies, or the mayor (whom can ask the host if a player is mafia or townie) and then there's the doctor, whom can protect single townies during the night...

If you read my statement above it'll be quite obvious that I'm knew to all you're rules and 3rd parties n stuff - and therefore theres no wonder I'm confused all the time. First time playing online, and with really, really in depth analysis... I usually play while drunk with friends." Link.

prof, in reply to DS - "Third party is neither town nor mafia. He has his own win conditions which may be dependant or independant of the teams." Link.

This whole post...

Link.

Noctis posts link to a mafia guide in reply to DS. Link. DS replies saying he will look through it. Link.

DS - "And then you got that lone gunslinger somewhere - if we got one in this game!" Link.

DS asks near the end of day one what an alarmist is, prof tells him to go back and check. Link. mantle then provided links to the mafiascum wiki, and two other locations, to which DS replied here.

I asked a few questions about this before, and DS replied. Link.

Trucks found DS suspicious for not realizing this was a power heavy game, and DS replied saying that he initially only thought there was cop/doctor/mafia/townies. Link.

hatmoza - "Rolstoppable was Janitored" Link.

Explanation of janitor role from mafiascum wiki posted by DS here.

linkz in reply to DS - "Since it's a power heavy game, it wouldn't be rare for town to get lucky and prevent mafia's kill night one." Link.

NinPie claims to be a second cop, and DS replies. Link. linkz posts a bit later with a link explaining what he thinks NinPie is roleclaiming (flavor cop). Link.

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That brings us back to the initial quote. Now the reason why I went through the entire thread again to find all of these quotes is because that first quote bothered me. Here it is again...

This part: "So this is a power heavy themed mafia game? goddamn..." confuses me. After all of those posts I referenced, Danne, did you really still not know that this was a power heavy game? It was specifically stated in the sign up thread and in the second post of this thread (see first two links), made by the game moderator.

Here's another quote...

Source.

"but now we know that it's a themed game" ... Should we not have known this from the start of the game? At the very latest, by the time Spurge was modkilled it should have been apparent when his role was revealed to be Luigi/Alarmist.

In general, you have come across as unknowledgeable about mafia roles. And that's not necessarily bad, because there are a lot and for a player new to them, it can be a lot to take in. But there were multiple mentions that this game did include many power roles, and there were multiple posts containing links to locations where you can read up about all things mafia. You did say later that you read some after Day 1. And that's good. But then here during day 2, why did you seem surprised that this was a power heavy game?

You later explain that you confused roles/abilities; thinking that having an ability was not your role. This confuses me as well. Again, we knew that this game was not limited to basic roles from the beginning, since hatmoza said so in the OP. Next, what difference does it make if it is a role or ability? I don't understand how you confused the two and that led you to think this was not a power heavy game. If a townie had some sort of ability that is not a night activity, how is that different from being a named role? You seemed to think that a vanilla townie could have some sort of special ability, but that's what roles are.

What I would like for you to clarify is your confusion over roles versus abilities, and what you thought of hatmoza's statement at the start of the game (that this was not limited to basic roles, and that this was a power heavy game) while you were confused.

Protagonists' are the ones who are the Main Characters, right?

If so, no. Not necessarily.

As I just said before this post, prof didn't jump the gun.

So you think he's mafia making it up when he'd eventually have to make good on his claim to be believed?

Possible, but the name cops in Pokemon were more like role cop. Just going off flips here, Luigi as Alarmist and Tails as Double Voter are not close to obvious links, so a name cop would be practically useless for mafia.

I'm familiar with many roles from the mafiascum wiki, but I thought of UB because I was recently in a game with one. It's the first thing that came to mind reading outlaw's posts because it doesn't require an active ability and would likely not give him the power of anti-town. Of course he could be the janitor!!

We don't know that there wasn't a poisoning last night, as usually that isn't announced. However, in the FMA round, which was hosted by hat, he did announce it.

Do you mean you were up too late playing? Because D3 has been such an excellent stress-reliever for me.

Bah, now this couldn't have been a joke of a role. In fact it's easily confirmable, and far more often than not a town role, because mafia(or any non-town) are not supposed to interfere with town's lynch.

It's possible that as mafia, Trucks is incapable of being motivated. However, it would be suicide of Trucks to lie if prof actually affected him somehow. If prof turns up dead(and not janitored) and was being honest about his role, Trucks would be lynched with the quickness.

I'm pretty sure it is impossible for a Cop to be on Mafia.

Vote: Danne

I do believe that a regular cop is never Mafia, since that would be useless for them. But there are mafia role cops. http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Role_Cop

Well, I was just called a Cop. I just think Hatz put limitations to my job. (i.e. only giving me Character Names and their respective Game Series.)

You're not a confirmed cop to me

Okay? Even though I have given sufficient info? I wouldn't just make up that Yuna thing.

I believe you are claiming to be a flavor cop, which I believe someone stated earlier.