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Do you think that there is a God?

Yes 37 34.91%
 
No 40 37.74%
 
It's likely 6 5.66%
 
It's not likely 13 12.26%
 
Not after what you just wrote! 1 0.94%
 
See results 9 8.49%
 
Total:106
WiiBox3 said:

Why would anyone want to do this to another human being. Plus it is impossible for a human to live by itself for the first year or two. Someone or something needs to feed it, etc. So it will have interaction with someone or something, thus this situation doesn't make sence.


There are countless possible scenarios. For example it could be held in a stagnant position while being fed by drop liquid  (<- if that's the English words for it.)

 

You are not supposed to be too literal about these examples though. The main point is that you have no awareness of God and that you are hindered from commiting sins throughout your entire life.



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IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
Jay520 said:
It depends on the religion. Some religions believe that God's existence is embedded into the essence of everyone and that the only reason someone doesn't believe him/her/it is because they choose to. What religion you talking about?


Judaism, Christianity and Islam, mainly.


 Those who live in ignorance of Islam for whatever reason are called "Ahel Al Fatra", they get tested after rebirth.



sad.man.loves.vgc said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
Jay520 said:
It depends on the religion. Some religions believe that God's existence is embedded into the essence of everyone and that the only reason someone doesn't believe him/her/it is because they choose to. What religion you talking about?


Judaism, Christianity and Islam, mainly.


 Those who live in ignorance of Islam for whatever reason are called "Ahel Al Fatra", they get tested after rebirth.


Interesting. Guess I should cut them off then.



Also those who were "mistaught" about Islam get tested after rebirth.



IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
sad.man.loves.vgc said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
Jay520 said:
It depends on the religion. Some religions believe that God's existence is embedded into the essence of everyone and that the only reason someone doesn't believe him/her/it is because they choose to. What religion you talking about?


Judaism, Christianity and Islam, mainly.


 Those who live in ignorance of Islam for whatever reason are called "Ahel Al Fatra", they get tested after rebirth.


Interesting. Guess I should cut them off then.


You will go to hell for doing that though, you love someone that much? :)



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sad.man.loves.vgc said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:


Interesting. Guess I should cut them off then.


You will go to hell for doing that though, you love someone that much? :)




Marks said:
I believe in God, but I'm a deist so I have no damn clue what happens or if God even gives a shit about what we do in our lifetime.

Deist?



NintendoPie said:
Marks said:
I believe in God, but I'm a deist so I have no damn clue what happens or if God even gives a shit about what we do in our lifetime.

Deist?


Yeah it's a belief that God created the world, but does not intervene in the world anymore. Basically I think he just created the world (to what extent I'm not sure) and then left it alone. 

I like it because it let's me believe in an intelligent creator, but doesn't conflict with science/evolution. 

It was popular with the founding fathers. Washington, Jefferson, Ben Franklin, Newton, and many others are notable Deists. 



Marks said:


Yeah it's a belief that God created the world, but does not intervene in the world anymore. Basically I think he just created the world (to what extent I'm not sure) and then left it alone. 

I like it because it let's me believe in an intelligent creator, but doesn't conflict with science/evolution. 

It was popular with the founding fathers. Washington, Jefferson, Ben Franklin, Newton, and many others are notable Deists. 

Oh. Thanks for letting me know!



IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
WiiBox3 said:

Why would anyone want to do this to another human being. Plus it is impossible for a human to live by itself for the first year or two. Someone or something needs to feed it, etc. So it will have interaction with someone or something, thus this situation doesn't make sence.


There are countless possible scenarios. For example it could be held in a stagnant position while being fed by drop liquid  (<- if that's the English words for it.)

 

You are not supposed to be too literal about these examples though. The main point is that you have no awareness of God and that you are hindered from commiting sins throughout your entire life.


Even without any human interaction, it is still possible to sin. If the person builds up some sort of hatred in their heart, etc. That is still considered to be a sin.

If the person has truely no sin, and no possible way to know God, then by some readings the person will go to heaven. But this depends on which religion and sect of the religion you are talking about.

For example if you are refering to Christianity, you would get many answers to this question. But no one knows for sure, because there is no clear text that gives an answer to this question.

But this question is in the same vien as, "Can God make a rock so big that he can't move it?" Or "My _____ got hit by a drunk driver and died, how could God let this happen?" Or "How much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?" They are questions that can not be answered by man.