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RolStoppable said:
theprof00 said:
RolStoppable said:

This is... confusing. Just a couple of minutes ago in another post you said that the mafia shouldn't be talking to each other on the first Day, implying that they only can plot strategies at Night.

I was trying to catch you in a slip-up :D

Usually they only talk at night, but lately (and probably the reason why mafia are doing so well recently) they've been allowed to talk during the day.

Had you been in the mafia chat and allowed to talk during the day, you might've said something like "this is confusing etc etc etc, perhaps they can talk during the day", but your confusion would tell me that in the case you are mafia, mafia can only talk at night. This doesn't seem very useful, but if you eventually flip mafia, it will help us understand the mafia a bit better.

Wait a second.

So spurge was probably trying to catch me in a slip-up as well by mentioning this off-topic thread in the first place. He is already suspicious to be mafia himself anyway. Now you tried to do the same in some attempt at a group effort. When this started I thought you were one of the good guys since you posted so much, but it's looking more and more likely that you are scum.

lol, explain. I understand X and Y, but not how X becomes Y.

It's possible that given your noobiness, spurge was doing that to catch you, but it was a pretty weak attempt if you ask me.

While I understand how you think similar behavior can mean mafia buddies, it's more likely that if I was intentionally copying spurge, that would indicate that I am scum, not spurge. Just fyi. Another mafia tactic is called parroting. It's characterized by a mafia jumping in on a lynch, or summarizing suspicions on a player, by basically repeating what a townie (usually a townie) says.



Now I am having a feeling that moreno is just a vanilla. I really don't want to meta but this one always happen if moreno doesn't have a role. 



RolStoppable said:
theprof00 said:

lol, explain. I understand X and Y, but not how X becomes Y.

It's possible that given your noobiness, spurge was doing that to catch you, but it was a pretty weak attempt if you ask me.

While I understand how you think similar behavior can mean mafia buddies, it's more likely that if I was intentionally copying spurge, that would indicate that I am scum, not spurge. Just fyi. Another mafia tactic is called parroting. It's characterized by a mafia jumping in on a lynch, or summarizing suspicions on a player, by basically repeating what a townie (usually a townie) says.

And another mafia tactic is to be incredibly helpful to a noob in order to build up trust that can potentially prevent a lynch of the mafia guy in question later on in the game.

The first thing I'll do on Day two is starting a lynch train on you. You can count on it.

haha, good good. I'm happy to see you making nicely intuitive counter-arguments. It helps me and others look at your train of thought and say "that's how a townie would think".

But, the sad fact is you can't trust ANYONE, ever.



lol, you're funny rol.



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NoCtiS_NoX said:

Now I am having a feeling that moreno is just a vanilla. I really don't want to meta but this one always happen if moreno doesn't have a role. 

If it makes you feel better, he never responded to my post in which I said he has no role.

I would think that he would have countered or at least acknowledged it.

 

Frankly, I got my first suspicion from this post

"@Whoever quoted me:

it's better to have a time limit and have some sort of progress during night than dragging along forever."

 

The first thing that leapt out was "some sort of progress".

The key words here is "some sort". This implies that he has virtually no worthwhile ability, otherwise he likely would've not said any of this, careful not to say anything he shouldn't.

Secondly, do you say this as a townie? No. Why? Because he's telling us about his role. A vanilla townie's job is to make himself a target.

Lastly, you combine these facts along with the fact that he didn't even have a vote down, and you begin to see that the only progress he wants is a nightkill.
A lynch, even a mislynch, is progress in itself. Why vote under the banner of progress, and not contribute to either discussion or a lynch?

It is also important to note that radish was the one on the chopping block at the time. What this tells me is that radish is likely a townie, moreno is likely a mafia, and his goal was to rush people into the mislynch. Later he will say "I was waiting for something". Radish, if I need to remind everyone, had 4 votes at the time. That's tipping point. That's the point where players start to get the motivation to vote just for the sake of the lynch. He didn't care to comment at the time, and later, when he says he was waiting, he already had plenty. He will then argue to me that "a no vote is similar to a no-lynch". If he was really for not lynching radish, he should've made it a point to talk about it.

That is why he refuses to talk, that is why he refused to vote, and that is why, even now in his final moments, he has neither claimed, nor acknowledged my claim of him, nor contributed as much as he can.



What are the votals? I thought the day ended about an hour ago anyway



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Official Day 1 Votals:

 

Lynchee L-6 L-5 L-4 L-3 L-2 L-1 Lynch
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Official Day 1 Vote history:

theprof00 votes theprof00
noname2200 votes Stefl1504
TruckOSaurus votes theprof00
noname2200 votes theprof00 and unvotes Stefl1504
supermario128 votes theprof00
spurgeonryan votes RolStoppable
spurgeonryan unvotes
Final-Fan votes theprof00
noname220 unvotes
morenoingrato votes theprof00
Linkzmax votes theprof00
Linkzmax votes supermario128 and unvotes theprof00
theprof00 unvotes
NoCtiS_NoX votes radishhead
theprof00 votes radishhead
TruckOSaurus votes radishhead and unvotes theprof00
morenoingrato unvotes
frankenfran votes theprof00
final-fan unvotes
radish votes limelimit
radish votes no lynch
final-fan votes spurgeonryan
NoCtiS_NoX pre-votes RolStoppable
morenoingrato votes limelimit
FrankenFran left the Arena never to be seen again.
RolStoppable joined the Arena on a quest for a huge monetary reward.
RolStoppable votes theprof00
linkzmax votes radishhead and unvotes supermario128
RolStoppable votes limelimit
NoCtiS_NoX votes radishhead
RolStoppable votes spurgeonryan and unvotes theprof00
theprof00 votes limelimit
theprof00 votes morenoingrato and unvotes radishhead
RolStoppable votes NoCtiS_NoX and unvotes spurgeonryan
noname2200 votes no lynch
RolStoppable votes noname2200 and unvotes
NoCtiS_NoX
Final-Fan votes moreno and unvotes spurgeonrya
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RolStoppable votes morenoingrato and unvotes noname2200
spurgeonryan votes morenoingrato
nen-suer votes no lynch
TruckOSaurus votes morenoingrato and unvotes radishhead
noname2200 votes morenoingrato and unvotes no lynch
RolStoppable unvotes
linkzmax votes morenoingrato and unvotes radishhead
supermario128 votes no lynch and unvotes theprof00
RolStoppable votes theprof00
RolStoppable votes morenoingrato and unvotes theprof00

The day ends with a lynch of morenoingrato, he was Gremlin Blue, a Townie, the item held will be revealed at dawn.



NIGHT 1 START!

Dear Spectators! It looks like the town has decided to lynch someone, after 7 people started beating up Gremlin Blue, the remaining 4 also decided to help Gremlin Blue at drawing his terminal breath, after Gremlin Blue died the other competitors played a short game of Football with his head and then went to have a nice slumber party at his place! That was it for today and I hope I can welcome you to an even more spectacular day tomorrow! Good Night!