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Are humans invaluable?

Yes 35 47.95%
 
No 21 28.77%
 
For the moment, yes 4 5.48%
 
See results 13 17.81%
 
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IIIIITHE1IIIII on 09 March 2012
Zim said:
I know this isn't exactly the question you were asking The1 but I thought it would be interesting for people. If you take into account sales of organs, metals in the body etc then a human is worth £420,000. As in purely as a physical thing all the parts of us are worth that.

Your question was more related to worth as a person but still thought it was interesting ^_^


Haha, that's truly a fun-fact! :D

Interesting indeed, thanks for sharing!



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IIIIITHE1IIIII on 09 March 2012
chris.m95 said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
chris.m95 said:
I think people say humans are more valuable than animals because they are human. While i myself would like to be able to say animals and humans are equal in a life or death situation id save a human over the animal. I love humans as i have said in another thread recently http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=140919&page=11#7 (i just cant be bothered to type it all again sorry).

I think that even if we were to create/come across a more advanced life form i would still prefer humans to it. I would definitely save a human over a robot because you can re-build a robot but when its a living thing eg an alien that it would become hard for me as no life can be replaced. Im really not sure what id do in that situation it would probably come down to who needs the most help and if i have time to get the other one out etc etc.

Until that time comes though when i am forced to choose between a human or an alien i will stick with humans. Oh and BTW if the aliens were more advanced etc etc but were hostile and we have no chance of winning id still fight for humanity. (that's just another scenario i thought id throw in the mix)


Just keep in mind that I was assuming that the superior life form was far more sympathetic and had far more moral and intelligence than humans. The logical course would then be to treat us like animals just like we treat even the smartest dolphins like animals.

Edit: Another thing is that since it's easier to recreate robots than humans, that's just another superior trait. It's possible to re'build humans as well, it's just a far more clumsy process.

Yes well even so you stick up for your own kind because theres alot they can learn from you just as we learn from dolphins (and they protect us) so whats to say we cant live with them as equals and work together learning from each other etc 


There's no problem about living as equals, just like there's laws that protects humans and animals from violence. The question is though if it would be morally incorrect to save a human instead of a superior mutant if you could only choose one.



snakenobi on 09 March 2012
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
snakenobi said:
its the most valuable thing in this world


For now; yes. But do you think it's possible to create a species or robot that exceeds that value?


species come and go,we can't even vision what that species would do

 

about robots,they are controllable and are not free thinkers.



chris.m95 on 09 March 2012
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
chris.m95 said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
chris.m95 said:
I think people say humans are more valuable than animals because they are human. While i myself would like to be able to say animals and humans are equal in a life or death situation id save a human over the animal. I love humans as i have said in another thread recently http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=140919&page=11#7 (i just cant be bothered to type it all again sorry).

I think that even if we were to create/come across a more advanced life form i would still prefer humans to it. I would definitely save a human over a robot because you can re-build a robot but when its a living thing eg an alien that it would become hard for me as no life can be replaced. Im really not sure what id do in that situation it would probably come down to who needs the most help and if i have time to get the other one out etc etc.

Until that time comes though when i am forced to choose between a human or an alien i will stick with humans. Oh and BTW if the aliens were more advanced etc etc but were hostile and we have no chance of winning id still fight for humanity. (that's just another scenario i thought id throw in the mix)


Just keep in mind that I was assuming that the superior life form was far more sympathetic and had far more moral and intelligence than humans. The logical course would then be to treat us like animals just like we treat even the smartest dolphins like animals.

Edit: Another thing is that since it's easier to recreate robots than humans, that's just another superior trait. It's possible to re'build humans as well, it's just a far more clumsy process.

Yes well even so you stick up for your own kind because theres alot they can learn from you just as we learn from dolphins (and they protect us) so whats to say we cant live with them as equals and work together learning from each other etc 


There's no problem about living as equals, just like there's laws that protects humans and animals from violence. The question is though if it would be morally incorrect to save a human instead of a superior mutant if you could only choose one.

I would save whoever was in the most need or who i could get to i dont let people die because there are others of a higher status, intelligence who are more important thats not me at all. eg i wouldnt leave a newagent to die because im saving a doctor who is more important. That is wrong



Wait... does this mean im not human?

PSN addy - mrx95

A good head and a good heart are always a formidable combination. - Nelson Mandela

A radical is a man with his feet planted firmly in the air. - Franklin.D.Roosevelt

 

IIIIITHE1IIIII on 09 March 2012
snakenobi said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
snakenobi said:
its the most valuable thing in this world


For now; yes. But do you think it's possible to create a species or robot that exceeds that value?


species come and go,we can't even vision what that species would do

 

about robots,they are controllable and are not free thinkers.


That's your robots and species. I'm talking about creatures with superior moral and intelligence. They'd never kill a human just like the average human wouldn't kill an animal (unless for survival).



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IIIIITHE1IIIII on 09 March 2012
chris.m95 said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
chris.m95 said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
chris.m95 said:
I think people say humans are more valuable than animals because they are human. While i myself would like to be able to say animals and humans are equal in a life or death situation id save a human over the animal. I love humans as i have said in another thread recently http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=140919&page=11#7 (i just cant be bothered to type it all again sorry).

I think that even if we were to create/come across a more advanced life form i would still prefer humans to it. I would definitely save a human over a robot because you can re-build a robot but when its a living thing eg an alien that it would become hard for me as no life can be replaced. Im really not sure what id do in that situation it would probably come down to who needs the most help and if i have time to get the other one out etc etc.

Until that time comes though when i am forced to choose between a human or an alien i will stick with humans. Oh and BTW if the aliens were more advanced etc etc but were hostile and we have no chance of winning id still fight for humanity. (that's just another scenario i thought id throw in the mix)


Just keep in mind that I was assuming that the superior life form was far more sympathetic and had far more moral and intelligence than humans. The logical course would then be to treat us like animals just like we treat even the smartest dolphins like animals.

Edit: Another thing is that since it's easier to recreate robots than humans, that's just another superior trait. It's possible to re'build humans as well, it's just a far more clumsy process.

Yes well even so you stick up for your own kind because theres alot they can learn from you just as we learn from dolphins (and they protect us) so whats to say we cant live with them as equals and work together learning from each other etc 


There's no problem about living as equals, just like there's laws that protects humans and animals from violence. The question is though if it would be morally incorrect to save a human instead of a superior mutant if you could only choose one.

I would save whoever was in the most need or who i could get to i dont let people die because there are others of a higher status, intelligence who are more important thats not me at all. eg i wouldnt leave a newagent to die because im saving a doctor who is more important. That is wrong


So, you wouldn't save a human instead of a cat?



chris.m95 on 09 March 2012
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
chris.m95 said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
chris.m95 said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
chris.m95 said:
I think people say humans are more valuable than animals because they are human. While i myself would like to be able to say animals and humans are equal in a life or death situation id save a human over the animal. I love humans as i have said in another thread recently http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=140919&page=11#7 (i just cant be bothered to type it all again sorry).

I think that even if we were to create/come across a more advanced life form i would still prefer humans to it. I would definitely save a human over a robot because you can re-build a robot but when its a living thing eg an alien that it would become hard for me as no life can be replaced. Im really not sure what id do in that situation it would probably come down to who needs the most help and if i have time to get the other one out etc etc.

Until that time comes though when i am forced to choose between a human or an alien i will stick with humans. Oh and BTW if the aliens were more advanced etc etc but were hostile and we have no chance of winning id still fight for humanity. (that's just another scenario i thought id throw in the mix)


Just keep in mind that I was assuming that the superior life form was far more sympathetic and had far more moral and intelligence than humans. The logical course would then be to treat us like animals just like we treat even the smartest dolphins like animals.

Edit: Another thing is that since it's easier to recreate robots than humans, that's just another superior trait. It's possible to re'build humans as well, it's just a far more clumsy process.

Yes well even so you stick up for your own kind because theres alot they can learn from you just as we learn from dolphins (and they protect us) so whats to say we cant live with them as equals and work together learning from each other etc 


There's no problem about living as equals, just like there's laws that protects humans and animals from violence. The question is though if it would be morally incorrect to save a human instead of a superior mutant if you could only choose one.

I would save whoever was in the most need or who i could get to i dont let people die because there are others of a higher status, intelligence who are more important thats not me at all. eg i wouldnt leave a newagent to die because im saving a doctor who is more important. That is wrong


So, you wouldn't save a human instead of a cat?

Id save the human but dont you see what im getting at? If someone is more intelligent/ has a higher status doesnt mean they have any right to be saved over a dumer person. i know what you saying with the high species (not human)  but i think id still save a human, theyre my people if you know what i mean.



Wait... does this mean im not human?

PSN addy - mrx95

A good head and a good heart are always a formidable combination. - Nelson Mandela

A radical is a man with his feet planted firmly in the air. - Franklin.D.Roosevelt

 

Troll_Whisperer on 09 March 2012

Obviously a human it's the most valuable thing because we humans are the only ones that can think in terms of 'value'. Things have the value that we as humans give them. These values would change if we as a society change our value model.



No troll is too much for me to handle. I rehabilitate trolls, I train people. I am the Troll Whisperer.

IIIIITHE1IIIII on 09 March 2012
chris.m95 said:

Id save the human but dont you see what im getting at? If someone is more intelligent/ has a higher status doesnt mean they have any right to be saved over a dumer person. i know what you saying with the high species (not human)  but i think id still save a human, theyre my people if you know what i mean.


I really don't blame you, I'd probably go for the human myself. The question is though if that would be morally correct, and I don't think it would.



IIIIITHE1IIIII on 09 March 2012
Troll_Whisperer said:
Obviously a human it's the most valuable thing because we humans are the only ones that can think in terms of 'value'. Things have the value that we as humans give them. These values would change if we as a society change our value model.


It is possible though to create life with greater morals and capabilities to save humans and themselves. Values can easily be taught as well, just like babies (probably) are born without them.