I don't see a PS4 in the near future. Sony is in a bad situation and will continue with PS3 for a long time. Perhaps we will see the PS4 in 2015/16.

Either E3 2013 or CES 2014 and no sooner. Could be later, but no sooner.

microsodt might announce at this year's e3. sony might wait, we'll start getting leaks towards the holiday's season and they'll announce next year

Both sometime this year. Both consoles are doing well, but are clearly on a downward trend. I expect console releases next year.

Jay520 said: Both sometime this year. Both consoles are doing well, but are clearly on a downward trend. I expect console releases next year.

I thought the PS3 has been on an upward trend...?

Seece said: NintendoPie said: Seece said: NintendoPie said: Seece said: NintendoPie said: Seece said: If 720 isn't announced at this E3, it'll be at Microsoft's own event, which could be whenever Does Microsoft even do their own events? Like a Nintendo investor meeting?  They do now, that's why they pulled out of CES Do we know when its scheduled?  No, they probably won't give much forewarning, bit like Apple. I don't see one until the Fall or maybe early/Spring 2013 Are you more expecting them to announce it at their own Conference or E3? Where was the X360 announced? E3 Correct? No, believe it was MTV, just before E3. And I have no idea, I think early 2013 makes sense tbh, only a 9 month~ frame between reveal and release.

X13

They have only had like one "X" event in recent years, haven't they? I believe they stopped doing them each year after X05

Millenium said: Seece said: NintendoPie said: Seece said: NintendoPie said: Seece said: NintendoPie said: Seece said: If 720 isn't announced at this E3, it'll be at Microsoft's own event, which could be whenever Does Microsoft even do their own events? Like a Nintendo investor meeting?  They do now, that's why they pulled out of CES Do we know when its scheduled?  No, they probably won't give much forewarning, bit like Apple. I don't see one until the Fall or maybe early/Spring 2013 Are you more expecting them to announce it at their own Conference or E3? Where was the X360 announced? E3 Correct? No, believe it was MTV, just before E3. And I have no idea, I think early 2013 makes sense tbh, only a 9 month~ frame between reveal and release. X13 They have only had like one "X" event in recent years, haven't they? I believe they stopped doing them each year after X05

I didn't even know they held them! XD

NintendoPie said: Jay520 said: Both sometime this year. Both consoles are doing well, but are clearly on a downward trend. I expect console releases next year. I thought the PS3 has been on an upward trend...?

Check the latest weekly chart. The PS3 is down YoY even with the price cut. It looks like we've hit the inevitable downtrend with consoles. 2012 can still be fuitiful enough for the HD consoles to fend on their own and maybe even the first half of 2013 if they're lucky. But I don't think HD consoles will have the endurance to last through the entirety of 2012, 2013, and the first half of 2014, in a successful manner of course. I see MS. & Sony releasing new consoles in 2013.

Jay520 said: NintendoPie said: Jay520 said: Both sometime this year. Both consoles are doing well, but are clearly on a downward trend. I expect console releases next year. I thought the PS3 has been on an upward trend...? Check the latest weekly chart. The PS3 is down YoY even with the price cut. It looks like we've hit the inevitable downtrend with consoles. 2012 can still be fuitiful enough for the HD consoles to fend on their own and maybe even the first half of 2013 if they're lucky. But I don't think HD consoles will have the endurance to last through the entirety of 2012, 2013, and the first half of 2014, in a successful manner of course. I see MS. & Sony releasing new consoles in 2013.

I see them lasting through this year but certainly not the next. 2013 release date I think, as do you, for both?

NintendoPie said: Jay520 said: NintendoPie said: Jay520 said: Both sometime this year. Both consoles are doing well, but are clearly on a downward trend. I expect console releases next year. I thought the PS3 has been on an upward trend...? Check the latest weekly chart. The PS3 is down YoY even with the price cut. It looks like we've hit the inevitable downtrend with consoles. 2012 can still be fuitiful enough for the HD consoles to fend on their own and maybe even the first half of 2013 if they're lucky. But I don't think HD consoles will have the endurance to last through the entirety of 2012, 2013, and the first half of 2014, in a successful manner of course. I see MS. & Sony releasing new consoles in 2013. I see them lasting through this year but certainly not the next. 2013 release date I think, as do you, for both?

Yeah, both will release late 2013 I think. Certainly not in 2012, like Superchunk predicts!