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sales2099 on 18 January 2012
o_O.Q said:
sales2099 said:
o_O.Q said:
sales2099 said:
Ajescent said:
youarebadatgames said:
maverick40 said:
Wow what a waste of money. My bluetooth headset can do the exact same thing.


Take your headset out of your ear and put it across the room and see how good the voice recognition is now.

Why would you do that...? Surely the whole point of a headset is...you wear it...on your head....no?

I am sure you are aiming to show the strengths of Kinect by your arguement but I feel it's just creating problems where there aren't any.

Ok buddy. The kinect hate train stops here. 

You claim we can do this with headsets. Cool story. People here allready disproved you by saying that Kinect makes voice recognition easier. Also its headset free, as you dont have to put on a physical accessory to play games. Thats another plus of kinect. 

Also, if you can do this with a headset or not is irrelevant......as I dont see headset functionality with the PS3. So dont discuss hypotheticals unless its relevant. 

This finctionality is OPTIONAL, an experiment. So I dont understand these complaints.

Seems the obvious reason for these complaints is that this is a 360 exclusive feature and the convienence of not using the power wheel, hence having completely uninteruppted gameplay on the 360 version, gives it a clear edge on the PS3 version.

This thus breeds sensitivity. If your a PS3 loyal, just let it out there and be yourself. Dont hide. 

"I dont see headset functionality with the PS3"

the ps3 doesn't support headsets now?


"People here allready disproved you by saying that Kinect makes voice recognition easier"

um that it makes implementation easier may very well be the case but regardless it should be obvious to anyone with common that any console equiped with a microphone and software to recognise voice commands can be capable of this kind of feature 

here is the ps3 responding to voice commands long before kinect was launched

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TaUsSy-f0Y

all that is required is for the game to have the voice recognition software incorporated

the only reason we aren't seeing more games with this feature across all of the consoles is that at this point in time microsoft is the only one focused on implementing this in games

 

"Seems the obvious reason for these complaints"

he wasn't complaining he was questioning the stupidity of yourbadatgames saying that a headset should be used away from your head... but somehow you see no issue with that right?... that you got so riled up by that shows who's truly sensitive here

Dont act like a child, I clearly meant the PS3 version of ME3 has no headset functionality. 

So really all I see is excuses. On paper and in-therory. FACT is kinect is easier and only the 360 version has it, which seems to positively contribute to gameplay. 

Its clear this guy is complaining about kinect when its optional, headset free, and contributes nicely to gameplay. He still hasnt responded to my latest retort (positive he has seen it) and the window has thus closed. Fact remains with those 3 points there was absolutely NO reason to complain....unless one has bias. 

I am not sensitive, merely responding to sensitivity. 

"Dont act like a child, I clearly meant the PS3 version of ME3 has no headset functionality."

lol its ironic that you'd say that, but i'm sorry for misinterpretating you

 

"there was absolutely NO reason to complain"

is he not allowed to have a different impression of the feature than you?

this is written in your sig

"A forum is a medium for open discussion or voicing of ideas, not a drum circle where everybody agrees with how awesome the subject matter is"

doesn't that apply to this topic too? or is it only applicable outside of microsoft topics?

the funny thing in all of this is that i just realised that he wasn't even complaining, all he was doing was questioning whether kinect was required for a feature like this

it obviously isn't http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TaUsSy-f0Y

"still calling Bullshit on this, on the grounds that headsets exists"

"Seeing as I can do voice work with my 1998 headset that came with my teach yourself GCSE French, I think it's safe to say Kinect is not the kingpin on this front."

where in his post do you see complaining?

 

"I am not sensitive"

we must have different definitions for the word then imo


lol ok. He can complain, but my point was he must have a underlying bias to do so, as there is no "rational reason" to complain. 

Again, you guys cant challenge that its:

Optional, headset free, and the impressions are all favourable

So really, in the end, this complaining and throwing my own sig back in my face is just futile backtracking with no real evidence to support why someone would have a negative reaction to this news......unless there are underlying loyalties and bias at work.



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Reasonable on 18 January 2012
Rainbird said:
Panama said:
Ajescent said:
I'm still calling Bullshit on this, on the grounds that headsets exists!

Also this is a good point, I fail to see why the standard 360 headset does not have this functionality.

Kinect contains hardware that aids voice command interpretation. If it was to be done through a headset, the developer would have to invest a lot more in creating solid voice recognition, than is required with Kinect.

No they wouldn't actually.  Kinect does have a design to aid identification and seperation of voice from background sounds amongst other things, but if you're wearing a headset with a mike (as I do sometimes when gaming on my PC) you don't need that as you're speaking into the mike directly.  From there it's simple voice recognition that's been around (and used) for ages.

Kinect adds ability to better support this for a gamer sitting on a couch some distance from the screen, but there is zero reason I can see the PC version couldn't have the same thing via a headset (apart from the fact the developer would no doubt have to use two sets of recognition libraries - the one's with Kinect and the one's for PC).

I think it's an interesting use of the voice stuff but like most Kinect hybrid elements I don't see it necessarily being better than other methods of control - but hopefully this will be one of the small steps to actually get us somewhere interesting.

EDIT: TBH what's shown in the video could easily be supported by Eyetoy too.  Kinect would definately have better range and seperation of voice but in the case of a gamer sitting directly (or near enough) in front of the sceen as shown there seems no reason (other than integration to multiple sets of voice recognition libraries) that all 3 versions couldn't have optional voice control (and given not every 360 owner has Kinect that's all it is on 360 too).  Mind you at least MS are pushing this - I presume they've worked with the developer and perhaps even funded this element of the game - whereas Sony are still in the mode off tossing out the hardware and software libraries and waiting for developers to use it.



Try to be reasonable... its easier than you think...

Badassbab on 18 January 2012

I don't think I can bring myself to shouting at the TV screen for instructions. If I lived alone then maybe.






Jay520 on 18 January 2012

I saw this thread when it was created and thought it would be forgotten, but it turned out to be surprisingly entertaining.



Mendicate Bias on 18 January 2012

End War tried voice recognition and it sucked. It took 10 minutes to setup and afterwards the game just could not pickup tons of commands.

IGN has a glowing review of the Kinect voice function up with one of their comment being "it just works". Clearly using Kinect is giving developers some sort of advantage over using a standard mic. Why would a developer spend a ton of resources trying to get voice commands to function over a microphone and then end up having it be sub par when they could spend less resources and deliver a better experience through kinect?

Some of you need to stop bitching about an optional feature that by all accounts not only works well but actually greatly adds to the immersion of the game.



                                           

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o_O.Q on 18 January 2012
sales2099 said:
o_O.Q said:
sales2099 said:
o_O.Q said:
sales2099 said:
Ajescent said:
youarebadatgames said:
maverick40 said:
Wow what a waste of money. My bluetooth headset can do the exact same thing.


Take your headset out of your ear and put it across the room and see how good the voice recognition is now.

Why would you do that...? Surely the whole point of a headset is...you wear it...on your head....no?

I am sure you are aiming to show the strengths of Kinect by your arguement but I feel it's just creating problems where there aren't any.

Ok buddy. The kinect hate train stops here. 

You claim we can do this with headsets. Cool story. People here allready disproved you by saying that Kinect makes voice recognition easier. Also its headset free, as you dont have to put on a physical accessory to play games. Thats another plus of kinect. 

Also, if you can do this with a headset or not is irrelevant......as I dont see headset functionality with the PS3. So dont discuss hypotheticals unless its relevant. 

This finctionality is OPTIONAL, an experiment. So I dont understand these complaints.

Seems the obvious reason for these complaints is that this is a 360 exclusive feature and the convienence of not using the power wheel, hence having completely uninteruppted gameplay on the 360 version, gives it a clear edge on the PS3 version.

This thus breeds sensitivity. If your a PS3 loyal, just let it out there and be yourself. Dont hide. 

"I dont see headset functionality with the PS3"

the ps3 doesn't support headsets now?


"People here allready disproved you by saying that Kinect makes voice recognition easier"

um that it makes implementation easier may very well be the case but regardless it should be obvious to anyone with common that any console equiped with a microphone and software to recognise voice commands can be capable of this kind of feature 

here is the ps3 responding to voice commands long before kinect was launched

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TaUsSy-f0Y

all that is required is for the game to have the voice recognition software incorporated

the only reason we aren't seeing more games with this feature across all of the consoles is that at this point in time microsoft is the only one focused on implementing this in games

 

"Seems the obvious reason for these complaints"

he wasn't complaining he was questioning the stupidity of yourbadatgames saying that a headset should be used away from your head... but somehow you see no issue with that right?... that you got so riled up by that shows who's truly sensitive here

Dont act like a child, I clearly meant the PS3 version of ME3 has no headset functionality. 

So really all I see is excuses. On paper and in-therory. FACT is kinect is easier and only the 360 version has it, which seems to positively contribute to gameplay. 

Its clear this guy is complaining about kinect when its optional, headset free, and contributes nicely to gameplay. He still hasnt responded to my latest retort (positive he has seen it) and the window has thus closed. Fact remains with those 3 points there was absolutely NO reason to complain....unless one has bias. 

I am not sensitive, merely responding to sensitivity. 

"Dont act like a child, I clearly meant the PS3 version of ME3 has no headset functionality."

lol its ironic that you'd say that, but i'm sorry for misinterpretating you

 

"there was absolutely NO reason to complain"

is he not allowed to have a different impression of the feature than you?

this is written in your sig

"A forum is a medium for open discussion or voicing of ideas, not a drum circle where everybody agrees with how awesome the subject matter is"

doesn't that apply to this topic too? or is it only applicable outside of microsoft topics?

the funny thing in all of this is that i just realised that he wasn't even complaining, all he was doing was questioning whether kinect was required for a feature like this

it obviously isn't http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TaUsSy-f0Y

"still calling Bullshit on this, on the grounds that headsets exists"

"Seeing as I can do voice work with my 1998 headset that came with my teach yourself GCSE French, I think it's safe to say Kinect is not the kingpin on this front."

where in his post do you see complaining?

 

"I am not sensitive"

we must have different definitions for the word then imo


lol ok. He can complain, but my point was he must have a underlying bias to do so, as there is no "rational reason" to complain. 

Again, you guys cant challenge that its:

Optional, headset free, and the impressions are all favourable

So really, in the end, this complaining and throwing my own sig back in my face is just futile backtracking with no real evidence to support why someone would have a negative reaction to this news......unless there are underlying loyalties and bias at work.

first off the only point he tried to make was that kinect is not needed for this functionality, do you disagree?

if not how is that complaining?

 

"you guys cant challenge that its:

Optional, headset free, and the impressions are all favourable"

and no one ever did...


"there is no "rational reason" to complain."

"with no real evidence to support why someone would have a negative reaction to this news"

again i have to reffer back to your sig here

 

"A forum is a medium for open discussion or voicing of ideas, not a drum circle where everybody agrees with how awesome the subject matter is."


again i have to point out that his point was only that kinect is not needed for this functionality and i personally don't see how that is complaining/negative

secondly with every new post imo you are showing me that you don't really believe in that message at all, it seems that unless a person's posts fall in line with your thinking then your message above becomes invalid for you



sales2099 on 18 January 2012
o_O.Q said:
sales2099 said:
o_O.Q said:
sales2099 said:
o_O.Q said:
sales2099 said:
Ajescent said:
youarebadatgames said:
maverick40 said:
Wow what a waste of money. My bluetooth headset can do the exact same thing.


Take your headset out of your ear and put it across the room and see how good the voice recognition is now.

Why would you do that...? Surely the whole point of a headset is...you wear it...on your head....no?

I am sure you are aiming to show the strengths of Kinect by your arguement but I feel it's just creating problems where there aren't any.

Ok buddy. The kinect hate train stops here. 

You claim we can do this with headsets. Cool story. People here allready disproved you by saying that Kinect makes voice recognition easier. Also its headset free, as you dont have to put on a physical accessory to play games. Thats another plus of kinect. 

Also, if you can do this with a headset or not is irrelevant......as I dont see headset functionality with the PS3. So dont discuss hypotheticals unless its relevant. 

This finctionality is OPTIONAL, an experiment. So I dont understand these complaints.

Seems the obvious reason for these complaints is that this is a 360 exclusive feature and the convienence of not using the power wheel, hence having completely uninteruppted gameplay on the 360 version, gives it a clear edge on the PS3 version.

This thus breeds sensitivity. If your a PS3 loyal, just let it out there and be yourself. Dont hide. 

"I dont see headset functionality with the PS3"

the ps3 doesn't support headsets now?


"People here allready disproved you by saying that Kinect makes voice recognition easier"

um that it makes implementation easier may very well be the case but regardless it should be obvious to anyone with common that any console equiped with a microphone and software to recognise voice commands can be capable of this kind of feature 

here is the ps3 responding to voice commands long before kinect was launched

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TaUsSy-f0Y

all that is required is for the game to have the voice recognition software incorporated

the only reason we aren't seeing more games with this feature across all of the consoles is that at this point in time microsoft is the only one focused on implementing this in games

 

"Seems the obvious reason for these complaints"

he wasn't complaining he was questioning the stupidity of yourbadatgames saying that a headset should be used away from your head... but somehow you see no issue with that right?... that you got so riled up by that shows who's truly sensitive here

Dont act like a child, I clearly meant the PS3 version of ME3 has no headset functionality. 

So really all I see is excuses. On paper and in-therory. FACT is kinect is easier and only the 360 version has it, which seems to positively contribute to gameplay. 

Its clear this guy is complaining about kinect when its optional, headset free, and contributes nicely to gameplay. He still hasnt responded to my latest retort (positive he has seen it) and the window has thus closed. Fact remains with those 3 points there was absolutely NO reason to complain....unless one has bias. 

I am not sensitive, merely responding to sensitivity. 

"Dont act like a child, I clearly meant the PS3 version of ME3 has no headset functionality."

lol its ironic that you'd say that, but i'm sorry for misinterpretating you

 

"there was absolutely NO reason to complain"

is he not allowed to have a different impression of the feature than you?

this is written in your sig

"A forum is a medium for open discussion or voicing of ideas, not a drum circle where everybody agrees with how awesome the subject matter is"

doesn't that apply to this topic too? or is it only applicable outside of microsoft topics?

the funny thing in all of this is that i just realised that he wasn't even complaining, all he was doing was questioning whether kinect was required for a feature like this

it obviously isn't http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TaUsSy-f0Y

"still calling Bullshit on this, on the grounds that headsets exists"

"Seeing as I can do voice work with my 1998 headset that came with my teach yourself GCSE French, I think it's safe to say Kinect is not the kingpin on this front."

where in his post do you see complaining?

 

"I am not sensitive"

we must have different definitions for the word then imo


lol ok. He can complain, but my point was he must have a underlying bias to do so, as there is no "rational reason" to complain. 

Again, you guys cant challenge that its:

Optional, headset free, and the impressions are all favourable

So really, in the end, this complaining and throwing my own sig back in my face is just futile backtracking with no real evidence to support why someone would have a negative reaction to this news......unless there are underlying loyalties and bias at work.

first off the only point he tried to make was that kinect is not needed for this functionality, do you disagree?

if not how is that complaining?

 

"you guys cant challenge that its:

 

Optional, headset free, and the impressions are all favourable"

and no one ever did...


 

"there is no "rational reason" to complain."

"with no real evidence to support why someone would have a negative reaction to this news"

again i have to reffer back to your sig here

 

"A forum is a medium for open discussion or voicing of ideas, not a drum circle where everybody agrees with how awesome the subject matter is."


again i have to point out that his point was only that kinect is not needed for this functionality and i personally don't see how that is complaining/negative

secondly with every new post imo you are showing me that you don't really believe in that message at all, it seems that unless a person's posts fall in line with your thinking then your message above becomes invalid for you


Ok seems I won this. I certainly put the other guy in his place as you seem to be debating in his stead. Your just backtracking too much. 

But the origional point: Kinect is necessary because of its ease.....and headsets are soooooo yesterday :P



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

osamanobama on 18 January 2012
sales2099 said:
o_O.Q said:
sales2099 said:
o_O.Q said:
sales2099 said:
Ajescent said:
youarebadatgames said:
maverick40 said:

Dont act like a child, I clearly meant the PS3 version of ME3 has no headset functionality. 

So really all I see is excuses. On paper and in-therory. FACT is kinect is easier and only the 360 version has it, which seems to positively contribute to gameplay. 

Its clear this guy is complaining about kinect when its optional, headset free, and contributes nicely to gameplay. He still hasnt responded to my latest retort (positive he has seen it) and the window has thus closed. Fact remains with those 3 points there was absolutely NO reason to complain....unless one has bias. 

I am not sensitive, merely responding to sensitivity. 

"Dont act like a child, I clearly meant the PS3 version of ME3 has no headset functionality."

lol its ironic that you'd say that, but i'm sorry for misinterpretating you

 

"there was absolutely NO reason to complain"

is he not allowed to have a different impression of the feature than you?

this is written in your sig

"A forum is a medium for open discussion or voicing of ideas, not a drum circle where everybody agrees with how awesome the subject matter is"

doesn't that apply to this topic too? or is it only applicable outside of microsoft topics?

the funny thing in all of this is that i just realised that he wasn't even complaining, all he was doing was questioning whether kinect was required for a feature like this

it obviously isn't http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TaUsSy-f0Y

"still calling Bullshit on this, on the grounds that headsets exists"

"Seeing as I can do voice work with my 1998 headset that came with my teach yourself GCSE French, I think it's safe to say Kinect is not the kingpin on this front."

where in his post do you see complaining?

 

"I am not sensitive"

we must have different definitions for the word then imo


lol ok. He can complain, but my point was he must have a underlying bias to do so, as there is no "rational reason" to complain. 

Again, you guys cant challenge that its:

Optional, headset free, and the impressions are all favourable

So really, in the end, this complaining and throwing my own sig back in my face is just futile backtracking with no real evidence to support why someone would have a negative reaction to this news......unless there are underlying loyalties and bias at work.


jeeze, he's only pointing out/ complaining that it is kinect exclusive feature, not one for all systems. He is not complaining that it uses Kinect and is optional.



d21lewis on 18 January 2012

Got my Kinect. Will be getting this game. I'm happy!



o_O.Q on 18 January 2012
sales2099 said:
o_O.Q said:
sales2099 said:
o_O.Q said:
sales2099 said:
o_O.Q said:
sales2099 said:
Ajescent said:
youarebadatgames said:
maverick40 said:
Wow what a waste of money. My bluetooth headset can do the exact same thing.


Take your headset out of your ear and put it across the room and see how good the voice recognition is now.

Why would you do that...? Surely the whole point of a headset is...you wear it...on your head....no?

I am sure you are aiming to show the strengths of Kinect by your arguement but I feel it's just creating problems where there aren't any.

Ok buddy. The kinect hate train stops here. 

You claim we can do this with headsets. Cool story. People here allready disproved you by saying that Kinect makes voice recognition easier. Also its headset free, as you dont have to put on a physical accessory to play games. Thats another plus of kinect. 

Also, if you can do this with a headset or not is irrelevant......as I dont see headset functionality with the PS3. So dont discuss hypotheticals unless its relevant. 

This finctionality is OPTIONAL, an experiment. So I dont understand these complaints.

Seems the obvious reason for these complaints is that this is a 360 exclusive feature and the convienence of not using the power wheel, hence having completely uninteruppted gameplay on the 360 version, gives it a clear edge on the PS3 version.

This thus breeds sensitivity. If your a PS3 loyal, just let it out there and be yourself. Dont hide. 

"I dont see headset functionality with the PS3"

the ps3 doesn't support headsets now?


"People here allready disproved you by saying that Kinect makes voice recognition easier"

um that it makes implementation easier may very well be the case but regardless it should be obvious to anyone with common that any console equiped with a microphone and software to recognise voice commands can be capable of this kind of feature 

here is the ps3 responding to voice commands long before kinect was launched

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TaUsSy-f0Y

all that is required is for the game to have the voice recognition software incorporated

the only reason we aren't seeing more games with this feature across all of the consoles is that at this point in time microsoft is the only one focused on implementing this in games

 

"Seems the obvious reason for these complaints"

he wasn't complaining he was questioning the stupidity of yourbadatgames saying that a headset should be used away from your head... but somehow you see no issue with that right?... that you got so riled up by that shows who's truly sensitive here

Dont act like a child, I clearly meant the PS3 version of ME3 has no headset functionality. 

So really all I see is excuses. On paper and in-therory. FACT is kinect is easier and only the 360 version has it, which seems to positively contribute to gameplay. 

Its clear this guy is complaining about kinect when its optional, headset free, and contributes nicely to gameplay. He still hasnt responded to my latest retort (positive he has seen it) and the window has thus closed. Fact remains with those 3 points there was absolutely NO reason to complain....unless one has bias. 

I am not sensitive, merely responding to sensitivity. 

"Dont act like a child, I clearly meant the PS3 version of ME3 has no headset functionality."

lol its ironic that you'd say that, but i'm sorry for misinterpretating you

 

"there was absolutely NO reason to complain"

is he not allowed to have a different impression of the feature than you?

this is written in your sig

"A forum is a medium for open discussion or voicing of ideas, not a drum circle where everybody agrees with how awesome the subject matter is"

doesn't that apply to this topic too? or is it only applicable outside of microsoft topics?

the funny thing in all of this is that i just realised that he wasn't even complaining, all he was doing was questioning whether kinect was required for a feature like this

it obviously isn't http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TaUsSy-f0Y

"still calling Bullshit on this, on the grounds that headsets exists"

"Seeing as I can do voice work with my 1998 headset that came with my teach yourself GCSE French, I think it's safe to say Kinect is not the kingpin on this front."

where in his post do you see complaining?

 

"I am not sensitive"

we must have different definitions for the word then imo


lol ok. He can complain, but my point was he must have a underlying bias to do so, as there is no "rational reason" to complain. 

Again, you guys cant challenge that its:

Optional, headset free, and the impressions are all favourable

So really, in the end, this complaining and throwing my own sig back in my face is just futile backtracking with no real evidence to support why someone would have a negative reaction to this news......unless there are underlying loyalties and bias at work.

first off the only point he tried to make was that kinect is not needed for this functionality, do you disagree?

if not how is that complaining?

 

"you guys cant challenge that its:

 

Optional, headset free, and the impressions are all favourable"

and no one ever did...


 

"there is no "rational reason" to complain."

"with no real evidence to support why someone would have a negative reaction to this news"

again i have to reffer back to your sig here

 

"A forum is a medium for open discussion or voicing of ideas, not a drum circle where everybody agrees with how awesome the subject matter is."


again i have to point out that his point was only that kinect is not needed for this functionality and i personally don't see how that is complaining/negative

secondly with every new post imo you are showing me that you don't really believe in that message at all, it seems that unless a person's posts fall in line with your thinking then your message above becomes invalid for you


Ok seems I won this. I certainly put the other guy in his place as you seem to be debating in his stead. Your just backtracking too much. 

But the origional point: Kinect is necessary because of its ease.....and headsets are soooooo yesterday :P

"Your just backtracking too much"

nah i was just demonstrating how absurd your argument was as he never complained about kinect... i suppose that that is the reason he stopped replying to you

 

"Ok seems I won this. I certainly put the other guy in his place as you seem to be debating in his stead."

i don't really have a reply for that... congrats i guess...


"Kinect is necessary"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TaUsSy-f0Y