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I am having a hard time trusting anyone and I hate it.
the scum kill last night makes FF's cop claim more questionable and even suspect.
radish has been on many people's list the whole game many of whom have since turned up town.
MG claims something that involves me that sadly I can't confirm. However so far it's the closest thing for explaining the lack of a night kill night 3.
TOS had a guilty scan on him and his explanation is random cop. With how set this town was for doom already I am not so sure that makes sense. However I still find FF's claims suspect.
Baalz doesn't even know if he is 3rd party and that could be a ruse and offing his team mate could be a way to secure he would last to the end.

If nox hadn't flipped vanilla I'd be voting TOS or radish right now. Even with the vanilla flip I am still suspect.
MG says prof confirmed an action he took while. for me prof didn't even confirm if I was vanilla or not.

I think I will reread the thread once more post a few ore observations on each player and then vote. This won't be for many hours though



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Look, the day is stalling out and I want to try to break things down. It seems to me that there are two options, from my perspective, that are more reasonable than any others:

1. We buy TOS's argument that my results are unreliable. Immediately, then, IMO radish and MG stand out as the top suspects.

2. We don't buy it, and lynch TOS.

3. Now, you guys aren't me, so "Final-Fan falseclaimed" is something to consider as well. But seriously, ask yourself if I was really under the kind of pressure that would make me false claim as COP, especially after we already had two watchers and a role cop flip? Leaving aside nen ALSO being a (naive) cop, because I couldn't have known that at the time, that is still sheer madness. Do you really think I would make a claim so ridiculous unless I had no other choice because it was true?

I mean, shit, I wasn't under enough pressure to force a claim at ALL IMO, except I was already wondering if I should come out and give the town my results. So when suspicion turned to me I was like "whatever, I'll just go public then".



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And personally, after being reminded that we had watcher siblings as well as a role cop, I think it's pretty reasonable to suggest that my results are unreliable like we know nen's were. I'm not saying I am all that confident in TOS, but I think it's more likely that (for example) radish and MG are the last mafia, rather than TOS is mafia and Wonk is a secret (even to himself) backup mafia.



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the biggest reason I have doubts on your claim FF is the fact neither you nor any of the people you cleared were killed last night.

However even with my doubts I have seen scum make worse decision.

Of the options for the day I am leaning the most towards lynching TOS



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Sure! My PM mentions I was burnt by desire, that I only drink and that I have no talent to show for it (I'm paraphrasing of course) so that makes me vanilla town.

Seems like your character has a drinking problem. After reading the wiki a few times, that doesn't fit Jonathan, who is known to excel at his job. Vincent and Boss are both mentioned to have drinking problems.



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Rereading my PM doesn't give me any clues that I'm anything but vanilla

@the TOS thing: he does drink a lot at the bar, but as MG said, he does have some talents



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I agree with Final-Fan that this day is starting to drag so I'm gonna make my vote right now.

Wonk, I trust completely, he's been scanned by Linkz and there's no doubt in my mind that he's Vincent and that Vincent is town.

Final-Fan and Baalz I trust because all their actions have seemed genuine and because the scenarios for them to be scum are too complicated to be plausible.

That leaves us with MG and radish as the final Mafia team, this feeling has been reinforced by those last two posts they made which to me seems to be grasping at straws trying to get anyone to vote for me so they can Quick Hammer.

MetalGear used what was revealed about Wonk by Linkz's investigation to tell us a story about giving him a technique but Wonk denied getting any confirmation of this happening. I have a hard time believing this, what's the point of giving someone an ability if they're not informed of it? Add to that his history of bandwagonning and he's earned my vote.

Vote: MetalGear



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TruckOSaurus said:

I agree with Final-Fan that this day is starting to drag so I'm gonna make my vote right now.

Wonk, I trust completely, he's been scanned by Linkz and there's no doubt in my mind that he's Vincent and that Vincent is town.

Final-Fan and Baalz I trust because all their actions have seemed genuine and because the scenarios for them to be scum are too complicated to be plausible.

That leaves us with MG and radish as the final Mafia team, this feeling has been reinforced by those last two posts they made which to me seems to be grasping at straws trying to get anyone to vote for me so they can Quick Hammer.

MetalGear used what was revealed about Wonk by Linkz's investigation to tell us a story about giving him a technique but Wonk denied getting any confirmation of this happening. I have a hard time believing this, what's the point of giving someone an ability if they're not informed of it? Add to that his history of bandwagonning and he's earned my vote.

Vote: MetalGear

I'm just trying to look at everything, my pm matches my character, yours doesn't seem to.

Like wonks already said, maybe the ability is passive. Or maybe it's something else. Prof didn't tell me anything about my ability until I asked multiple question. I asked him if I had a role, he didn't confirm anything. I assumued by sharing techniques he meant I could talk to Vincent somehow, but then he told me that I don't even know who vincent is. So I then asked, I know wonks is Vincent, is there aanything I could do with this info, he then replied by saying I had already done something just by saying that.

 



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MetalGear_94 said:
TruckOSaurus said:

I agree with Final-Fan that this day is starting to drag so I'm gonna make my vote right now.

Wonk, I trust completely, he's been scanned by Linkz and there's no doubt in my mind that he's Vincent and that Vincent is town.

Final-Fan and Baalz I trust because all their actions have seemed genuine and because the scenarios for them to be scum are too complicated to be plausible.

That leaves us with MG and radish as the final Mafia team, this feeling has been reinforced by those last two posts they made which to me seems to be grasping at straws trying to get anyone to vote for me so they can Quick Hammer.

MetalGear used what was revealed about Wonk by Linkz's investigation to tell us a story about giving him a technique but Wonk denied getting any confirmation of this happening. I have a hard time believing this, what's the point of giving someone an ability if they're not informed of it? Add to that his history of bandwagonning and he's earned my vote.

Vote: MetalGear

I'm just trying to look at everything, my pm matches my character, yours doesn't seem to.

Like wonks already said, maybe the ability is passive. Or maybe it's something else. Prof didn't tell me anything about my ability until I asked multiple question. I asked him if I had a role, he didn't confirm anything. I assumued by sharing techniques he meant I could talk to Vincent somehow, but then he told me that I don't even know who vincent is. So I then asked, I know wonks is Vincent, is there aanything I could do with this info, he then replied by saying I had already done something just by saying that.

 

Jonathan is a regular at the bar so I'm guessing that's where that part of the PM comes from.



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Nice job hiding behind your "Metalgear and Radish are mafia" thing. I know that I'm not mafia, and I'm pretty confident that you must be one of the remaining scum. Whether that makes metalgear the other, I'm not sure- but the only thing convincing about you atm is your roleclaim, and there are even doubts about the flavour expressed in that



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