I was right that he was hammer but for the wrong reasons. I was thinking from profs votals that 2 more votes were needed when it was three.

My guess is that you're a Random Cop because I'm Johnny and I'm very much town. I know from your point of view that must be hard to swallow but we also had 2 watchers (spurge and Stefl) so it's not that unbelievable that our two cops return worthless investigations.

I'm not asking you to believe me right away but please remove your vote from me since we may be in a Quick Hammer situation right now.

I'll be gone for the next few hours but I'll be back later tonight.

@Final-Fan: Don't throw the game away, remove the vote and if you're not satisfied later on you can lynch my ass.

care to roleclaim?

Well, I had honestly forgotten about the watchers. I would be really disappointed if my results are not just wrong but RANDOMLY wrong because that's complete bullshit IMO. Naive, paranoid, and reverse cops at least give consistent results.

For now,
Unvote TOS

Sure! My PM mentions I was burnt by desire, that I only drink and that I have no talent to show for it (I'm paraphrasing of course) so that makes me vanilla town.

Now on to why I think Final-Fan is Random Cop, the long version:

Apart from the obvious fact (well from my point of view) that his investigation result doesn't match my alignment, there's how this game had been unfolding.

There were 14 players in this game to start with. From a modding standpoint, that's a tough number since 3 scum against 11 town favors Town and 4 scum against 10 town favors Mafia. If we were up against a 4-man Mafia team the game would be over right now (3 scum to 3 town) so we have to be facing a 3-man team.

On the surface 3 scum against a powered town of 11 seems quite disproportionate but when you look at what we've been "blessed" with then you realize the game has been built in a way that the town is setup for self-destruction:

- There were siblings which resulted in a 2 deaths from one mislynch.
- We had a princess which resulted in 2 nights in a row
- We had one Naive Cop and another Cop which created the situation we faced yesterday, where both cops go after each other.
- We had a Vigilante which while it worked out for the best in our case could have gone wrong just as easily
- We have either a double voter or someone without a vote which lead Baalz to hammer nen unknowingly

On the plus side, we had two watchers who could have been helpful had they not died early and there was Linkz's role which provided us with valuable information without him having to roleclaim.

So what I'm saying is that misinformation in not uncommon in this game and that it's up to us to figure out what is reliable. Right now, I know for a fact that Final-Fan's results can't be trusted and what I've observed since the game began does explain the situation.

There is the possibility that radishhead could be godfather, and therefore scan innocent

I had been hoping I was a reverse cop until I remembered the fact that hatmoza scanned innocent (it was a while ago and he was dead by the time I got my result so I hadn't been considering that). Prof, it's looking like I'm going to have to hate you.

In other news, I would advocate a No Lynch to try to let mafia narrow the suspect pool, but the odd voting thing means this may be lylo ahead of schedule. If anyone can come forward with information that helps the town in this regard, please do so.

Finally, it's possible that TOS is scum and Wonk is unknowingly backup scum, which could justify me being a regular cop with Linkz and watchers already in the game ... but it seems more reasonable to think that Wonk isn't backup scum, and therefore it's just two regular mafia left. (Then again, is being reasonable evidence for, or against, a hypothesis here?)

IN ANY CASE, NONE OF THE ABOVE MAKES TOS NOT ONE OF THOSE MAFIA. I just realized that TOS's arguments could all be completely true and he could still really be scum who a random cop just happened to roll guilty on, which would be truly hilarious.

one other thing that I don't recall every being explained was when we had 2 nights in a row but only one kill.