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TruckOSaurus said:
Well with the exception of Vetteman, I think everyone chimed in on the situation and judging by the way people reacted (either with votes or by stating their disbelief on the two set of linked roles situation), I'd say no one fits with the reaction the prince would have had if he really existed so there's really no point in holding back my vote any longer.

Vote: moreno

Well, I'm not sure nen-suer's contributio is actually evidence that he's not the prince.  As for baalz, who the hell knows.  Therefore, in deference to Linkz, and for the moment, I will

Vote radishhead

Please explain why, after reading TOS's post, you just so happened to write a post where you completely copied his opinions.  Were you feeling particularly impressionable that day?  Do you at least understand why that's incredibly suspicious? 



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Final-Fan said:
TruckOSaurus said:
Well with the exception of Vetteman, I think everyone chimed in on the situation and judging by the way people reacted (either with votes or by stating their disbelief on the two set of linked roles situation), I'd say no one fits with the reaction the prince would have had if he really existed so there's really no point in holding back my vote any longer.

Vote: moreno

Well, I'm not sure nen-suer's contributio is actually evidence that he's not the prince.  As for baalz, who the hell knows.  Therefore, in deference to Linkz, and for the moment, I will

That's right I had already forgetten about Mr. Apathy #3. He's lucky we have good lynch candidates today because that attitude alone deserves a vote.

Now let's talk about radish a bit.

His first meaningful post was about being town and knowing nothing about sheep [http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4385098]

Then he comes back and says some research made him realize he's connected to sheep after all. [http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4385515] To me that post reeks of wanting to fit in/look good/look town (it's also classic radish behevior) but then hatmoza kinda defused the situation by identifying him as Orlando [http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4385518] something that has yet to be challenged.

Afterwards, radish's contribution for Day One are pointless (comments on lurkers, comment on attractiveness of characters and a two page absence at the end of the day)

Day Two begins and there's his first blunder [http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4391791] where he reveals he's vanilla townie. This could easily be an attempt to look town by scum since it's just common sense not to reveal that kind of information when you're really town. Then comes the parroted post which generated two replies explaining it. One before I explained what my image meant [http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4392996] and the other after he realized what I was accusing him of [http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4393072].

So in short, the ONLY redeeming factor radish has right now is the fact that he claimed a main character without anyone rising up to challenge him on that.

I'm leaving my vote in place for now but it wouldn't take much for me to change it to radish (who knows maybe one of our many lurkers is actually Orlando).



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Linkzmax said:

Vetteman94 said:

The whole moreno thing is interesting, although its not a good idea that everyone seems to be so focused on him and not looking elsewhere with suspicions.  Now obviously I am not one to talk as I havent offered up another possible target, but it seems to be a severe case of tunnel vision going on right now with moreno at the end of the tunnel.  Some for good reasons, others not so good, but something just makes me think he isnt scum, just confused town. Which given the situation is undersandable as this game is kind of a cluster fuck. 

What are you talking about? radish is a strong suspect too. He has no votes at the moment, but he's likely headed for the gallows soon enough.

Kindly, help us escape the tunnel and offer someone else as a possible target.

Who has good reason? Who has weak ones?

To be honest with you,  I havent considered radish to be a strong suspect either.  he has barely been questioned on anything, and without any votes (1 now though) its tough to take it seriously as a strong suspect as you say he is.  Not to mention so far all he has been really guilty of is parroting.  

Well a good reason is his constantly changing interpretation of his role PM.  A bad one was because hatmoza was killed instead of him so he must be scum, that and their cant be 2 sets of linked roles.   If the odd mod choies in past games have taught anyone anything, it should be to not doubt odd game setups.

Baalz could be a good target, the whole "the game is confusing so I am not interested in playing" sounds like BS. Sure the game is a little more confusing than most but everyone else is trying to make due with it.  I guess radish could be too but, I would hope the reasoning is more than just parroting a pretty valid reason to vote someone else. 



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Vote radishhead


Please explain why, after reading TOS's post, you just so happened to write a post where you completely copied his opinions.  Were you feeling particularly impressionable that day?  Do you at least understand why that's incredibly suspicious? 

I understand that it looks bad- I guess I wasn't really thinking properly when I posted the message. To be honest, when I know that I'm town and someone figured out my character without me even having to properly claim, I tend to fall into a false sense of security, and I forget that it's still possible to be suspected for my actions. It's something that I'll work on for future games - since you've shown me my errors however, I'll make more of an effort to help out the town, rather than just sit back and watch the scumhunting.

On that note, I propose that we lynch a lurker - they're not doing anything for the town, and the mafia's questionable decision to kill hatmoza rather than the siblings on day 1 shows that they're probably not coordinating that well

Look, is there something in particular that you want me to comment on, since my observations are so "pointless"? 



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If you guys are going that route then I think I have to put here the other person on my suspicion list.

HoS Metalgear.

The timing of his vote is really scummy. He looks like a scum on bandwagon vote. It happened twice now. First is spurge and now Moreno. He just goes along with whomever the majority have eyes on. He just always agrees without a sense of doubt.

See the trend here.
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4388693
and..
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4394998

And Metalgear put the hammer vote for spurge.



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NoCtiS_NoX said:
If you guys are going that route then I think I have to put here the other person on my suspicion list.

HoS Metalgear.

The timing of his vote is really scummy. He looks like a scum on bandwagon vote. It happened twice now. First is spurge and now Moreno. He just goes along with whomever the majority have eyes on. He just always agrees without a sense of doubt.

See the trend here.
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4388693
and..
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4394998

And Metalgear put the hammer vote for spurge.

You've inspired me to look at MetalGear's complete contribution to the game so I checked all his posts (it wasn't long). He's the perfect case of the active lurker.

He responded to questions about penises and the weird PMs. Then when called out for his absence, he went on to say he didn't have anything to say and that he found nobody to be suspicious and he disappeared once again to return for his vote on Spurge.

Today he asked questions about prof's post about Wonk, disappeared and then voted for moreno.

I agree it doesn't look good at all.



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radishhead said:

Final-Fan said:
 

Vote radishhead


Please explain why, after reading TOS's post, you just so happened to write a post where you completely copied his opinions.  Were you feeling particularly impressionable that day?  Do you at least understand why that's incredibly suspicious? 

I understand that it looks bad- I guess I wasn't really thinking properly when I posted the message. To be honest, when I know that I'm town and someone figured out my character without me even having to properly claim, I tend to fall into a false sense of security, and I forget that it's still possible to be suspected for my actions. It's something that I'll work on for future games - since you've shown me my errors however, I'll make more of an effort to help out the town, rather than just sit back and watch the scumhunting.

On that note, I propose that we lynch a lurker - they're not doing anything for the town, and the mafia's questionable decision to kill hatmoza rather than the siblings on day 1 shows that they're probably not coordinating that well

Look, is there something in particular that you want me to comment on, since my observations are so "pointless"? 

I'm not sure I buy the repentant townie act but I'll comment on your second paragraph.

The way I see it, lynching a lurker is kind of a last resort when we're stomped and we can't identify suspicious people. I don't think that is the situation we are in right now.

You say you want to scumhunt but it's only talk. We've got ourselves a fine example just here in the last few posts. There's you scumhunting by saying "we should lynch a lurker" a vague and non-committal statement and then there's Noctis saying "here's a lurker who's suspicious and here's why I think he is". One shows a real attempt at finding scum, the other is more an attempt at looking town.



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Unvote radish

moreno, ballz, and MG. Three excellent lynch candidates, all for different reasons.



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radish still doesn't look good but he's not as bad as the others in my eyes -- MG has him beat IMO in the general category you noted, TOS.



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Vote: Baalz

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