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S.T.A.G.E. said:
If Sony launches within a good window with good exclusives, proper pricing and cross chat in their online next gen Microsoft is kinda screwed. Especially with the online being free that goes double.

I bet 10000000000% PSN will NOT be free next gen. That would be a horrible business move for Sony. 

PSN is free right now, and Live kills it every year in hours spent playing online. Available downloadable content is also much more active on Live. 

Sony need to make money from PSN to keep up with the R&D of Live.

Dec 6th Live changes again,with so many features that the competition just doesnt have. An integrated search engine for a start.



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selnor said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
If Sony launches within a good window with good exclusives, proper pricing and cross chat in their online next gen Microsoft is kinda screwed. Especially with the online being free that goes double.

I bet 10000000000% PSN will NOT be free next gen. That would be a horrible business move for Sony. 

PSN is free right now, and Live kills it every year in hours spent playing online. Available downloadable content is also much more active on Live. 

Sony need to make money from PSN to keep up with the R&D of Live.

Dec 6th Live changes again,with so many features that the competition just doesnt have. An integrated search engine for a start.

Free or not, you did not adress what he was saying. Ms has to launch before Sony for it to compete. Ms biggest advantage will be price and and lauch date, without them, they are screwed.



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11/20/09 04:25 makingmusic476 Warning Other (Your avatar is borderline NSFW. Please keep it for as long as possible.)
Seece said:
Joelcool7 said:
Seece said:
 

I'm just asking you to be considerate to other people, at the least you could at least post the content in the next post.


I try to be considerate that is why I have included the source to begin with. In the past prior to this year I rarely ever provided a source, I used to create topics based on press releases and personal convo's. But I changed that as well as many other aspects of how I create threads taking constructive critisism into consideration.

You're not going out of your way providing a link, that's the done thing, if you make a topic on some IGN article but don't post a source, someone else has every right to make a new thread, link the source, and have your thread locked.

Look my own writing style isn't going to change. I try to make the articles shorter and I try to write as considerate as possible. But I am not going to change what makes me , me. You may not like me and some other users don't either but their are people who do adn it wouldn't benefit me at all to completely change what some people like.

I'm not asking you to change, just to be more considerate like I said before. It's fine if you don't want to even do that though, If I see any of your threads I'll just post the link content myself or urge others too, you're just being awkward not obliging. Again you ignored my point about people not being able/not wanting to click on certain sources (and that's entirely their right) so the only content they have to read is your opinion. That's fine for people that like reading your long drawn out pretentious writing style, but a large bulk of people don't.

Also again I have tried to be considerate you and I just don't seem to get a long. As for your comment about getting me banned I can qoute it "I'll have you banned for that "

That was in regards to you calling me a scumbag, and you were banned, and rightly so. It was no threat. Also you need to be careful twisting situations like that as it calls into question a member of staff and tries to make them look bad.


Look based on things you have said and coupled with comments like that it is clearly a threat. I don't see any other users saying "I'll have you banned for that" its one thing to say comments like that will get you banned or a mod might ban you for that. But you specifically said "I'll have you". That is pretty high and mighty of a statement if your going to call me out for being high and mighty I will obviously call you out.

It's not high and mighty, it's me telling you I'm reporting you for outright breaking a rule, you just need to deal with that. Any member on this site can say exactly what I said if you said the same to them.

As for you writing I am aware of VGChartz. Not your specific position but reporting any of the facts you stated are still reporting. A writer writing any of those jobs should be a writer. Either way you report news I don't know how you think writing on a website is not reporting.

Again with the twisting, you originally called me out for being a news writer (which you meant in the way of industry news) and contained speculation ect. Which is wrong.

Anyways as I said I am taking every peice of critisicm into consideration. Including yours, I also try my best to be considerate but as I said their is only so much I will do.

Anyways I notice we are going off topic, do you have anything to actually say about the topic? If you wish to consider the talk above, PM me or write on my wall. I would be glad to continue maturely talking about the subject outside of this topic. Derailing threads isn't something I like to do.

No not really, if you don't contain the link content in future though I'll do it myself, just don't moan when I do.




wait, your actually reading and responding to all of what Joel posts?

most impressive, usually i read all posts in a thread, but when ever i see Joels, i just skip it because its a giant wall of rambling text.

i dont kno what the content is, if i agree or disagree with it, or anything. sometimes i try to read it, then i get bored and stop. i tried to read the op but stopped as well.



psrock said:
selnor said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
If Sony launches within a good window with good exclusives, proper pricing and cross chat in their online next gen Microsoft is kinda screwed. Especially with the online being free that goes double.

I bet 10000000000% PSN will NOT be free next gen. That would be a horrible business move for Sony. 

PSN is free right now, and Live kills it every year in hours spent playing online. Available downloadable content is also much more active on Live. 

Sony need to make money from PSN to keep up with the R&D of Live.

Dec 6th Live changes again,with so many features that the competition just doesnt have. An integrated search engine for a start.

Free or not, you did not adress what he was saying. Ms has to launch before Sony for it to compete. Ms biggest advantage will be price and and lauch date, without them, they are screwed.

Completely disagree. M$ owns America. Thats theirs now. EMEAA is very close. M$ are going toe to toe with Sony and Sony have thrown evverythin they ave first party wise at M$ and yet M$ are standing. 

Before you start to talk about what M$ need, how about what Sony need. After all Sony are in last place. They lost US this gen an do NOT have EU to themsleves. 



Thanks Seece for simplifying Joelcool7's op, and thank you Joelcool7 for adding an interesting yet already speculated edition to the post.

i will also add whether either of you like it or not cause i could give 2 shits. the banter was not needed, and Joelcool7's op is about as pointless as anyone else's including yours Seece.



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psrock said:
selnor said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
If Sony launches within a good window with good exclusives, proper pricing and cross chat in their online next gen Microsoft is kinda screwed. Especially with the online being free that goes double.

I bet 10000000000% PSN will NOT be free next gen. That would be a horrible business move for Sony. 

PSN is free right now, and Live kills it every year in hours spent playing online. Available downloadable content is also much more active on Live. 

Sony need to make money from PSN to keep up with the R&D of Live.

Dec 6th Live changes again,with so many features that the competition just doesnt have. An integrated search engine for a start.

Free or not, you did not adress what he was saying. Ms has to launch before Sony for it to compete. Ms biggest advantage will be price and and lauch date, without them, they are screwed.

I agree. Can't denie the facts that since both consoles released the PS3 has sold more. I think for MS to remain relevent and happy in the industry though they only need to secure Americas, and they should do that even better than they have this gen, next gen.



 

selnor said:
psrock said:
selnor said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
If Sony launches within a good window with good exclusives, proper pricing and cross chat in their online next gen Microsoft is kinda screwed. Especially with the online being free that goes double.

I bet 10000000000% PSN will NOT be free next gen. That would be a horrible business move for Sony. 

PSN is free right now, and Live kills it every year in hours spent playing online. Available downloadable content is also much more active on Live. 

Sony need to make money from PSN to keep up with the R&D of Live.

Dec 6th Live changes again,with so many features that the competition just doesnt have. An integrated search engine for a start.

Free or not, you did not adress what he was saying. Ms has to launch before Sony for it to compete. Ms biggest advantage will be price and and lauch date, without them, they are screwed.

Completely disagree. M$ owns America. Thats theirs now. EMEAA is very close. M$ are going toe to toe with Sony and Sony have thrown evverythin they ave first party wise at M$ and yet M$ are standing. 

Before you start to talk about what M$ need, how about what Sony need. After all Sony are in last place. They lost US this gen an do NOT have EU to themsleves. 

MS has both US and UK , Is that enough ?  I doubt it. And Sony has EU even after releasng more than year after the xbox360. Sony does have their work cut out for them in the US though. 



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11/20/09 04:25 makingmusic476 Warning Other (Your avatar is borderline NSFW. Please keep it for as long as possible.)

I think the online communities will more or less keep the status quo next gen. Barring some major redirection with the new consoles, people will continue to keep their online accounts and friend lists. I think with a subscription fee Xbox has more of a loyal following. The real question is which online community is growing more rapidly?



selnor said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
If Sony launches within a good window with good exclusives, proper pricing and cross chat in their online next gen Microsoft is kinda screwed. Especially with the online being free that goes double.

I bet 10000000000% PSN will NOT be free next gen. That would be a horrible business move for Sony. 

PSN is free right now, and Live kills it every year in hours spent playing online. Available downloadable content is also much more active on Live

Sony need to make money from PSN to keep up with the R&D of Live.

Dec 6th Live changes again,with so many features that the competition just doesnt have. An integrated search engine for a start.

blah blah blah....

i bet 100000000000000000000% PSN WILL be free next year, to along along with the paid PSN+.

as for the bolded, source?, link?

there are many features that PSN has that the competition just doesnt have, like an internet browser, NHL gamecenter, NFL network, MLB.tv, voodoo movies, moives and music unlimited, and cloud starage (did xbox just get this one)



MS can make a 2012 fall release but I just dont see the PS4 until fall 2013. If they release in 2012....your essentially killing off the PS3s remaining potential as it hasn't even hit the magic $199 price point yet.

Oh Sony......first PS3, then Vita, and now PS4. You really love lagging behind your competitors now :)



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles.