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superchunk on 08 June 2012
zarx said:


They did it with the CELL (hell they practically had it designed the entire architecture for the PS3) and more recently with the Vita which was the first SGX543MP4. Also Steamroller is due early 2013 so given a late 2013 or early 2014 release date it won't exactly be brand new. Aditionally 4 cores will be at the low end of the Steamroller APU line, plus even today you can get a quad core APU for $120US where are you getting $600 from?

XDR2 hasn't even been licenced for manufacturing yet you used a rumour that listed it.

There are plenty of reasons to doubt the rumour you don't have to make shit up...

Also why havn't you updated bassed on the latest Wii U rumours? 

I thought I did update it with the latest Wii U rumors? Which one did I miss?

As for PS4, I will update it with this rumor as well (just didn't have the time yesterday), however, I still don't see them going cutting edge again.

1) Initial rumors showed they were not.

2) It caused massive losses for PS3.

3) It has forced Vita to be too expensive and so far a failing device.

While I have always said I think they'd bump up from where the specs were originally at, I don't think it will be to 2013 tech.

I also don't think I made anything up. If you are referring to the $600 price... that's what a brand new APU or GPU costs (and I'm being low-end with that). So that's what a brand new 2013 APU would cost to put in a PS4.



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superchunk on 08 June 2012
Scoobes said:

No APUs are priced at $600+. Even the best APU chips are designed for mainstream and the lower end of the performance sector. The design is also just an update of the existing Bulldozer architecture rather than a complete overhaul.

The article also states 3.2GHz which is very conservative for a current AMD chip. The soon to be released top of the line APU (A10 5800K) is clocked at 3.8GHz. If anything, it almost seems too conservative as they're going for a low clock speed quad core which is only capable of 1 thread per core when the rumours of the WiiU and NeXtBox suggest Power7 CPUs capable of 4 threads per core.


So a brand new chip would not be close or well over $600? Everytime I see a new CPU or GPU they are at or above that. Why would a APU be different?



superchunk on 08 June 2012

Updated PS4 specs with latest rumor.
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=nl&u=http://www.psx-sense.nl/89207/exclusief-talloze-informatie-over-de-playstation-4-inclusief-specificaties/&ei=xjDST5XoM8jp0gGF5ciXAw&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CFAQ7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://www.psx-sense.nl/89207/exclusief-talloze-informatie-over-de-playstation-4-inclusief-specificaties/%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Dactive%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3D48i%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26prmd%3Dimvns



Sirius87 on 08 June 2012
superchunk said:
Scoobes said:

No APUs are priced at $600+. Even the best APU chips are designed for mainstream and the lower end of the performance sector. The design is also just an update of the existing Bulldozer architecture rather than a complete overhaul.

The article also states 3.2GHz which is very conservative for a current AMD chip. The soon to be released top of the line APU (A10 5800K) is clocked at 3.8GHz. If anything, it almost seems too conservative as they're going for a low clock speed quad core which is only capable of 1 thread per core when the rumours of the WiiU and NeXtBox suggest Power7 CPUs capable of 4 threads per core.


So a brand new chip would not be close or well over $600? Everytime I see a new CPU or GPU they are at or above that. Why would a APU be different?


Only the highest end CPUs may cost $600. Even i7 CPUs don't cost that much.

AMD's APUs clearly are in the entry section of PC-CPUs. And in most cases the successor of a CPU costs same as its predecessor costed before the launch of the new one.

edit: oh and another thing: it's rumored that the HD 7xxx-GPU has 1.8TFlops which isn't in line with the rumour of a HD 79xx. But it  matches the power of a HD 7850 or HD 7870. A HD 79xx would be totally over the top for a console.



Solid-Stark on 08 June 2012
superchunk said:
zarx said:


They did it with the CELL (hell they practically had it designed the entire architecture for the PS3) and more recently with the Vita which was the first SGX543MP4. Also Steamroller is due early 2013 so given a late 2013 or early 2014 release date it won't exactly be brand new. Aditionally 4 cores will be at the low end of the Steamroller APU line, plus even today you can get a quad core APU for $120US where are you getting $600 from?

XDR2 hasn't even been licenced for manufacturing yet you used a rumour that listed it.

There are plenty of reasons to doubt the rumour you don't have to make shit up...

Also why havn't you updated bassed on the latest Wii U rumours? 

I thought I did update it with the latest Wii U rumors? Which one did I miss?

As for PS4, I will update it with this rumor as well (just didn't have the time yesterday), however, I still don't see them going cutting edge again.

1) Initial rumors showed they were not.

2) It caused massive losses for PS3.

3) It has forced Vita to be too expensive and so far a failing device.

While I have always said I think they'd bump up from where the specs were originally at, I don't think it will be to 2013 tech.

I also don't think I made anything up. If you are referring to the $600 price... that's what a brand new APU or GPU costs (and I'm being low-end with that). So that's what a brand new 2013 APU would cost to put in a PS4.


In regard to the latest WiiU specs, I thought it was a 3-core PowerPC IBM processor and 1.5gb of total RAM (clock speeds were not given) and the GPU was listed as AMD r7xx which is likely a ~4770 based.



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Andrespetmonkey on 08 June 2012

As solid stark said, a tri-core seems to be the latest rumoured cpu for the Wii U



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superchunk on 08 June 2012
Solid-Stark said:
superchunk said:

I thought I did update it with the latest Wii U rumors? Which one did I miss?

As for PS4, I will update it with this rumor as well (just didn't have the time yesterday), however, I still don't see them going cutting edge again.

1) Initial rumors showed they were not.

2) It caused massive losses for PS3.

3) It has forced Vita to be too expensive and so far a failing device.

While I have always said I think they'd bump up from where the specs were originally at, I don't think it will be to 2013 tech.

I also don't think I made anything up. If you are referring to the $600 price... that's what a brand new APU or GPU costs (and I'm being low-end with that). So that's what a brand new 2013 APU would cost to put in a PS4.


In regard to the latest WiiU specs, I thought it was a 3-core PowerPC IBM processor and 1.5gb of total RAM (clock speeds were not given) and the GPU was listed as AMD r7xx which is likely a ~4770 based.

I've only ever seen 4 cores. The only change was that it is said to downgrade the threading capabilities from 4/core to 2/core.

I've seen 1.5gb plus 512MB for OS... so thats total of 2GB but it could mean 1.5 and the 512 is out of that. idk. It seems more logical if its 2gb total.

I have the older and new card rumors up there too.

I think I have it all covered... of course only more rumors and breakdowns after launch will be perfect.



zarx on 09 June 2012
superchunk said:
Solid-Stark said:
superchunk said:

I thought I did update it with the latest Wii U rumors? Which one did I miss?

As for PS4, I will update it with this rumor as well (just didn't have the time yesterday), however, I still don't see them going cutting edge again.

1) Initial rumors showed they were not.

2) It caused massive losses for PS3.

3) It has forced Vita to be too expensive and so far a failing device.

While I have always said I think they'd bump up from where the specs were originally at, I don't think it will be to 2013 tech.

I also don't think I made anything up. If you are referring to the $600 price... that's what a brand new APU or GPU costs (and I'm being low-end with that). So that's what a brand new 2013 APU would cost to put in a PS4.


In regard to the latest WiiU specs, I thought it was a 3-core PowerPC IBM processor and 1.5gb of total RAM (clock speeds were not given) and the GPU was listed as AMD r7xx which is likely a ~4770 based.

I've only ever seen 4 cores. The only change was that it is said to downgrade the threading capabilities from 4/core to 2/core.

I've seen 1.5gb plus 512MB for OS... so thats total of 2GB but it could mean 1.5 and the 512 is out of that. idk. It seems more logical if its 2gb total.

I have the older and new card rumors up there too.

I think I have it all covered... of course only more rumors and breakdowns after launch will be perfect.


For the 3 core CPU + other details, the latest rumours

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/352365/full-wii-u-specs-allegedly-leaked-at-e3-tri-core-cpu-15gb-ram-8gb-flash/?attr=cvg-general-rss&cid=otc-rss&site=cvg

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=38686027&postcount=802

There were some older leaks that said a 3 core CPU as well

http://www.01net.com/editorial/531660/project-cafe-la-wii-2-de-nintendo-aura-une-tablette-pour-manette/



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superchunk on 09 June 2012
zarx said:


For the 3 core CPU + other details, the latest rumours

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/352365/full-wii-u-specs-allegedly-leaked-at-e3-tri-core-cpu-15gb-ram-8gb-flash/?attr=cvg-general-rss&cid=otc-rss&site=cvg

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=38686027&postcount=802

There were some older leaks that said a 3 core CPU as well

http://www.01net.com/editorial/531660/project-cafe-la-wii-2-de-nintendo-aura-une-tablette-pour-manette/

Interesting and its from yesterday. Odd though as rumors up til now all focused on quad-core. However, it does say 2GB RAM in that as well.



zarx on 09 June 2012
superchunk said:
zarx said:


For the 3 core CPU + other details, the latest rumours

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/352365/full-wii-u-specs-allegedly-leaked-at-e3-tri-core-cpu-15gb-ram-8gb-flash/?attr=cvg-general-rss&cid=otc-rss&site=cvg

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=38686027&postcount=802

There were some older leaks that said a 3 core CPU as well

http://www.01net.com/editorial/531660/project-cafe-la-wii-2-de-nintendo-aura-une-tablette-pour-manette/

Interesting and its from yesterday. Odd though as rumors up til now all focused on quad-core. However, it does say 2GB RAM in that as well.


It is possible considering the heafty OS/background tasks allotment that Nintendo are also reserving a full core for those things as well. Especially if they are going to offer multitsking capabilities, being able to bring up a wen browser on the tablet while voice chatting without causing any slowdown in the game could be a really cool feature for the system. So the Wii U might be quad core but devs only have access to 3 of them. 

Having said that the rumours do include details such as cache, so leaving off a core does seem pretty odd. 



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