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zarx said:

 

You people do realise that IBM make CPUs based on 10 different architectures that span 2 different instruction sets. All of which vary wildly in terms of performance...

And AMD have at lest 3 different architectures as well, all that while all based on x86 vary wildly in terms of performance.

The comparison is flawed from the beginning and everyone who answers ether way is wrong. Because there are so many variables.

And if we just reduce the range to "CPU for nextgen consoles".

Whitch better POWERPC or AMD x86 or Intel x86??? The nextbox will use a molded version of the Windows 8 I guess.



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ethomaz said:

And if we just reduce the range to "CPU for nextgen consoles".

Whitch better POWERPC or AMD x86 or Intel x86??? The nextbox will use a molded version of the Windows 8 I guess.


Depends on what kinds of workloads you are looking at, if you want lots of FLOPS from low power and small die than Power is probably your best bet. For anything else performance wise Intel. But if you want something cheap and designed for an APU/SoC design then I doubt AMD can be beat.

 

Also for old times sake

System Processor Graphics memory Hard-drive setup Time (in seconds) required to run test Frames per second
Premiere 6 Photoshop 7.0.1 Word Quake III
Render QuickTime 50MB image 150MB image Search and replace Auto summarize 1024 by 768 1600 by 1200
Apple Power Mac G5 Two 2-GHz PowerPC G5s 128MB Standard 4 72 18 51 16 12 294 207
Apple Power Mac G5 1.8-GHz PowerPC G5 128MB Standard 5 84 27 76 19 14 147 141
 
Alienware Aurora 2.2-GHz Athlon 64 FX-51 128MB Standard 4 37 21 60 8 6 335 257
Alienware Aurora 2.2-GHz Athlon 64 FX-51 256MB RAID 3 33 21 62 5 6 338 261
Falcon Northwest Mach V 2.2-GHz Athlon 64 FX-51 256MB RAID 3 33 20 60 5 6 337 246
Voodoo Fury 2.2-GHz Athlon 64 FX-51 256MB RAID 3 33 21 62 5 6 336 248
Polywell Polystation Two 2-GHz Opteron Model 246s 128MB Standard 3 30 17 47 9 6 250 199
ABS Awesome 5100 2-GHz Athlon 64 3200+ 128MB RAID 4 40 23 68 6 7 261 224
Alienware Area 51 3.2-GHz Pentium 4 256MB RAID 4 46 24 69 7 7 307 254

And people really don't think that performance was the reason that Apple went with Core 2 which completely crushes every CPU on this chart. Considering that Power 6 wasn't due for an entire year after Core 2 was. 



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"If you talk to people about the next-gen games at, oh, I don't know, a major gaming trade show or a major gaming awards show, the persistent impression given is that these new systems will be powerful. The old comparison I heard—and saw backed up by a solid report on IGN—was that the new Xbox would be eight times more powerful than the 360. That's old reporting, from earlier in the year. We've also heard that Durango is roughly as graphically capable as the second-most powerful PC on the market today, which, yes, is quite the indirect statement. The chatter we hear is that Durango and Orbis are close in power to each other or at least both in the same league past the current gen. Much may have changed since then and, as any Wii U owner can tell you, it's damn hard to assess how powerful a system is even when playing the first batch of games a developer made for it. (Or don't ask a Wii U user... ask an Xbox 360 user to compare 2005 360 launch games Kameo: Elements of Power or Perfect Dark Zero to 2012's Halo 4)."

http://kotaku.com/5968211/reality-check-theres-a-strong-chance-well-have-a-ps4-and-xbox-720-a-year-from-now

Seccond most powerful single GPU today would be the HD 7970....



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zarx said:

Seccond most powerful single GPU today would be the HD 7970....

That's so good to be true.

I will love a A10 with some custom 7970 APU.



zarx said:

Has this been posted yet?

"If you talk to people about the next-gen games at, oh, I don't know, a major gaming trade show or a major gaming awards show, the persistent impression given is that these new systems will be powerful. The old comparison I heard—and saw backed up by a solid report on IGN—was that the new Xbox would be eight times more powerful than the 360. That's old reporting, from earlier in the year. We've also heard that Durango is roughly as graphically capable as the second-most powerful PC on the market today, which, yes, is quite the indirect statement. The chatter we hear is that Durango and Orbis are close in power to each other or at least both in the same league past the current gen. Much may have changed since then and, as any Wii U owner can tell you, it's damn hard to assess how powerful a system is even when playing the first batch of games a developer made for it. (Or don't ask a Wii U user... ask an Xbox 360 user to compare 2005 360 launch games Kameo: Elements of Power or Perfect Dark Zero to 2012's Halo 4)."

http://kotaku.com/5968211/reality-check-theres-a-strong-chance-well-have-a-ps4-and-xbox-720-a-year-from-now

Seccond most powerful single GPU today would be the HD 7970....

that doesn't mean it will be that. We knwo that consoles are far more optimized so an older model like the 7670 will be able to handle roughyl the same stuff.



 

 

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yea it clearly won't be a HD 7970 lol.
Probable closer to a HD 8770 in the end, I am sure the chips that will be in final hardware have been in parallel development with GCN at AMD each in their own black box teams. but they will both likely be finalised some time next year giving them time to roll in some improvements from the main dev team at AMD have been working on for 8XX0, as well as what ever custom tweaks they have been cooking up with the respective R&D teams at Sony and MS.

Naturally they will need to be conservative with die area and heat so it won't be a top end card, but it should be the latest tech available at the time of launch. They won't go for a generation past whatever the current PC hardware is like MS did last time tho.



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Cobretti2 said:
zarx said:

Seccond most powerful single GPU today would be the HD 7970....

that doesn't mean it will be that. We knwo that consoles are far more optimized so an older model like the 7670 will be able to handle roughyl the same stuff.

You are aware that 7970 is some 4x faster than 7670? No amount of optimization can close that gap even remotely.

But I really don't think we'll see 7970 equivalent inside NextBox, that card is some 15x more powerful than what's inside 360. Something around 7850 sounds probable though.



Guys...

And the AMD Sea Islands???

- Radeon HD 8850 (1536:96:32) for a console below $600
- Radeon HD 8770 (768:48:16) for a console below $400

I think both AMD GPUs will be a Sea Islands because they will not get a HD 7000 series if AMD will realse the 8000 series in early next year.

The TDP in 28nm fits perfectly too.



^From those two, I agree with what zarx choosing the 8770. The performance of the 7870, perfectly capable of running (most of) the actual games at 1080p at 60fps while using less than 100W.



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JEMC said:

^From those two, I agree with what zarx choosing the 8770. The performance of the 7870, perfectly capable of running (most of) the actual games at 1080p at 60fps while using less than 100W.

Yeap... even the HD 8750 is a really good option.

Maybe AMD can put a HD 8750 into the A10... so the PS4 can be really powerful.