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NinjaguyDan on 07 January 2008
redisrad said:
NinjaguyDan said:
Blu-ray hasn't won yet. It no longer has a viable competitor but it has an even greater challenge ahead of it, mainstream acceptance. Right now the average consumer is satisfied with the standard DVD format and most of them look at a new format as another entertainment industry rip-off. (even worse than a Rob Schneider movie!)

"It's just another way to make me buy those 200 movies I already bought all over again for even more money."

Regardless of the Sony loyalist spin, that is the mainstream mindset and Sony has a long way to go to change it. (if ever)

they dont force you to buy the new movies over again. this has already been said that you can play dvd on you bluray player. if you want better picture quality then you can rebuy it but they force you to buy it.


BC isn't the issue, it's the perception of it being a rip-off that Sony needs to shake.

If they can bring the cost of the stand-alone machines down below $100 and content at comparable prices to that of SD-DVD then, and only then, will it gain mainstream acceptance.  I don't see that happening anytime soon so, like I said, Blu-ray hasn't won yet.



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windbane on 07 January 2008

I'm not going to quote anyone since there were several people mentioning Sony's failed formats, and I've pointed this out plenty of times before:  Sony was a huge part of the CD format and a big part of the DVD format.  In the case of the DVD, they gave up their own format to contribute their tech for DVD.   As for betamax, it was technically better than VHS but didn't record long enough early on for recording sports, watching porn, etc.

Sony doesn't always fail, and blu-ray isn't just Sony's format.  The hatred is unecessary. 



LordTheNightKnight on 07 January 2008
makingmusic476 said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
makingmusic476 said:
SuperDave said:
@op because years from now when there's only 1 format(presumably) I'd rather that format be controlled by a company other then Sony. This of course, has nothing to do with Nintendo vs Sony or any of that jibberish, it's simply that Sony has a history for overcharging for hardware and if they have a monopoly over the high def formats, we'll continue to overpay......simple as that imo.

Where do people get the idea that Blu-Ray is controlled by Sony? The BDA consists of over 170 companies, and Panasonic holds more patents in Blu-Ray tech than Sony. This is hardly Sony's format.


Where do people get the idea Microsoft controls HD-DVD?


People actually think that? Lol, I could see possibly Toshiba, but MS? MS doesn't give a crap about HD DVD.


But there are those claiming they paid Paramount and Dreamworks, not Toshiba, and it's not just Michael Bay. 



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LordTheNightKnight on 07 January 2008
windbane said:

I'm not going to quote anyone since there were several people mentioning Sony's failed formats, and I've pointed this out plenty of times before: Sony was a huge part of the CD format and a big part of the DVD format. In the case of the DVD, they gave up their own format to contribute their tech for DVD. As for betamax, it was technically better than VHS but didn't record long enough early on for recording sports, watching porn, etc.

Sony doesn't always fail, and blu-ray isn't just Sony's format. The hatred is unecessary.


How is the hatred for anything about gaming necessary (aside from maybe jack tompson )?

The hatred for HD-DVD doesn't make sense, if you think about it.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

windbane on 07 January 2008
LordTheNightKnight said:
windbane said:

I'm not going to quote anyone since there were several people mentioning Sony's failed formats, and I've pointed this out plenty of times before: Sony was a huge part of the CD format and a big part of the DVD format. In the case of the DVD, they gave up their own format to contribute their tech for DVD. As for betamax, it was technically better than VHS but didn't record long enough early on for recording sports, watching porn, etc.

Sony doesn't always fail, and blu-ray isn't just Sony's format. The hatred is unecessary.


How is the hatred for anything about gaming necessary (aside from maybe jack tompson )?

The hatred for HD-DVD doesn't make sense, if you think about it.


I agree there...I don't "hate" any media, I just find hd-dvd inferior and useless because blu-ray exists.  I understand there are a few interactivity features that are better (until blu-ray java is used more), but certain dvds have those and I couldn't tell you which ones.

But whatever, no one trusts my opinion because I like my PS3 and clearly that clouds my judgement.



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redisrad on 07 January 2008
windbane said:
JHawkNH said:
Tell you what, when a BluRay play drops below $200 I won't care which format wins. But if HD DVD was to die today, you wouldn't see a sub $200 BluRay player for at least two years. The compatition between the two formats has brought down prices to mass market appeal.

I'm sure Samsung, Panasonic, Sharp, Sony, etc won't want to sell more blu-ray players now that they have no competition in the form of HD-DVD. Nope, they will just keep their players at the price they are and not try to outdo each other like they do for every other technology they sell products for.

It'll be the same as DVD. No company tries to release a better product for DVDs because there is no other format.

Ugh...

that not possible at this time because bluray cost tons of money to get devoloped and they lease it to get money back and as more bluray players get sold the lower they can drop the price

 



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LordTheNightKnight on 07 January 2008
windbane said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
windbane said:

I'm not going to quote anyone since there were several people mentioning Sony's failed formats, and I've pointed this out plenty of times before: Sony was a huge part of the CD format and a big part of the DVD format. In the case of the DVD, they gave up their own format to contribute their tech for DVD. As for betamax, it was technically better than VHS but didn't record long enough early on for recording sports, watching porn, etc.

Sony doesn't always fail, and blu-ray isn't just Sony's format. The hatred is unecessary.


How is the hatred for anything about gaming necessary (aside from maybe jack tompson )?

The hatred for HD-DVD doesn't make sense, if you think about it.


I agree there...I don't "hate" any media, I just find hd-dvd inferior and useless because blu-ray exists. I understand there are a few interactivity features that are better (until blu-ray java is used more), but certain dvds have those and I couldn't tell you which ones.

But whatever, no one trusts my opinion because I like my PS3 and clearly that clouds my judgement.


I wasn't referring to your feelings about HD-DVD. Your comment before that was about hatred for Sony in general, so my comment was of course about HD-DVD hatred in general. 



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

windbane on 07 January 2008
LordTheNightKnight said:
windbane said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
windbane said:

I'm not going to quote anyone since there were several people mentioning Sony's failed formats, and I've pointed this out plenty of times before: Sony was a huge part of the CD format and a big part of the DVD format. In the case of the DVD, they gave up their own format to contribute their tech for DVD. As for betamax, it was technically better than VHS but didn't record long enough early on for recording sports, watching porn, etc.

Sony doesn't always fail, and blu-ray isn't just Sony's format. The hatred is unecessary.


How is the hatred for anything about gaming necessary (aside from maybe jack tompson )?

The hatred for HD-DVD doesn't make sense, if you think about it.


I agree there...I don't "hate" any media, I just find hd-dvd inferior and useless because blu-ray exists. I understand there are a few interactivity features that are better (until blu-ray java is used more), but certain dvds have those and I couldn't tell you which ones.

But whatever, no one trusts my opinion because I like my PS3 and clearly that clouds my judgement.


I wasn't referring to your feelings about HD-DVD. Your comment before that was about hatred for Sony in general, so my comment was of course about HD-DVD hatred in general.


I know, I'm just saying why I agree that you shouldn't hate a format.  It's retarded. 



Mars on 07 January 2008

Save how, the thing is dead.

See Toshiba's CES show, lol great stuff.



windbane on 07 January 2008
Mars said:
Save how, the thing is dead.

See Toshiba's CES show, lol great stuff.

Yeah it seems they had nothing to say about it.  I think they realize it's about over.